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Here there Jim shoot the 150 TSX with absolute confidence. It will pass thru mature elk even on sharp angled shots from front or back. . Because of it's length it will carry well. I have my own range out to 522yd & have seen many of the Barnes TSX bullet which are considered light for cal do quite well. These bullets are long for their weight . Some shooters only look at weight & fail to understand the BC of theses bullets. . Don't be afraid to use the 150 in your 300. It's performance ability will amaze you once you actually shoot some. Save the heavier 168's & 180's for King Kong.

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I've never seen anything like of a 150gr TTSx at 3040fps in a 30-06. Hot knife in butter. Nothing is going to stop it. I'd prolly look at the 165 or 168 in the wsm. But if you don't go heavier.. don't worry that 150 is one wicked mother [bleep].


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Jim: Using an online recoil calculator and reloading data for the 150 tsx and 180 tsx Barnes bullets the difference in recoil energy is 3 lbs. in a 7.5 lb rifle. That is the difference in recoil between a 22 Hornet and a 204 Ruger. Loonieism indeed.

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Placed proper it wont do an elk any good.

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Originally Posted by mikieb
Dose anybody have a recipe for a 300WSM w/150gr TTSX ?

Barnes website has load data.


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I like the 165-8 for Elk but the 150 and even 130 will do just fine. Been loading 150 BT for deer in my 300WM and a max charge of R16 will fold them up like a taco. Check the Alliant and Speer sites for the particulars. R23 is another to check out for it's excellent temperature change resistance.


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Originally Posted by bobmn
Jim: Using an online recoil calculator and reloading data for the 150 tsx and 180 tsx Barnes bullets the difference in recoil energy is 3 lbs. in a 7.5 lb rifle. That is the difference in recoil between a 22 Hornet and a 204 Ruger. Loonieism indeed.


But you see Bob, I've been there, done that ( over a dozen Plains game with the 180 XBT and antelope/mule deer with the 180NBT ( the older ones that fragmented!) ha I just want to play with something different. smile

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That 150gr TTSX will absolutely ruin anyting you shoot. Nothing is gonna stop it.


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For comparison's sake, in my experience, using a 30-06 for years with both bullets, the 180 CoreLokt and the 130 Barnes TSX are very similar in performance so far as penetration and wounding. If anything, the TSX has an edge when big bone is encountered.

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I misunderstood Jim. I thought the purpose of the exercise was recoil reduction. When I messed up a shoulder I loaded 150 grain bullets in my 300 WM thinking it would help. It did not.

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Finally got to try some 150TTSX loads out last week. The best accuracy was 77.6gr H4831sc and 72gr R17. I'm using Jagmann new brass, which is pretty thick brass. Can't get listed Max, but not to worry. Since the range filled up early, I couldn't set up my chronograph. However, the H4831sc went 3 shots into a nice .5" avg and the R17 went into the 3's, actually cut each other! Nice to have a "bonafide varmint rifle" to shoot a big target with! ha.

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It will work. Dropped a cow Fri, 7 WSM 140 TTSX. Quartering away, feeding, 300 yards, I put it right behind the onside shoulder, came out the front of the offside shoulder. DRT. Shoot your elk with confidence.


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Why is this thread still rolling along? Are there actually Campfire members who doubt a .30-caliber, 150 TTSX won't kill any elk, regardless of whether the cartridge is a .300 magnum or some other .30?


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Why is this thread still rolling along? Are there actually Campfire members who doubt a .30-caliber, 150 TTSX won't kill any elk, regardless of whether the cartridge is a .300 magnum or some other .30?


My thoughts exactly!!!

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I'm just tickled my rifle likes them! ha

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I use the 150 TTSX BT in my .300 H&H because it's very accurate, but I have not shot an elk with it. I did use this bullet several days ago in my New Ultra Light Arms .308 on an elk hunt in New Mexico. Worked very well on a bull at 175 yards. I load to a muzzle velocity of about 2850 with H4895 powder.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Knight
Finally got to try some 150TTSX loads out last week. The best accuracy was 77.6gr H4831sc and 72gr R17. I'm using Jagmann new brass, which is pretty thick brass. Can't get listed Max, but not to worry. Since the range filled up early, I couldn't set up my chronograph. However, the H4831sc went 3 shots into a nice .5" avg and the R17 went into the 3's, actually cut each other! Nice to have a "bonafide varmint rifle" to shoot a big target with! ha.


How far off the lands? I like the Barnes bullets, but I can not find the accuracy.

Any tips?

I've tried H4350, Imr4350 and now playing with R17, decent accuracy but room for improvement.

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I seat them a full .10 off the lands, and I FCD them. I am convinced that the monos need a good "bullet pull" for best results. The case mouth crimps just into the second groove from the tip. Like it was made for it, ha. R17 really stood out for me.

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I'm sure they'd work, however I'd be inclined to drop to a slightly lighter bullets. In penetration tests, one gunwriter has found that Barnes penetrate the same distance as Partitions weighing 1.2 times as much. Therefore a 150gr Barnes should penetrate about like 180gr Partition. Unless you and your rifle are set up for shots over 400yds I'd probably drop down to the 165/168gr bullet and enjoy the extra speed. In my limited experience with Barnes, more speed is more better. I'd also go with the tipped ones.

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I got to chronograph my two loads last week. The H4831 load went 3307 and the R17 load went 3367, average for five shots. Pretty fast. I loaded the 168 TSX for a friend to use in his 300 WSM and he has used it on a a lot of big animals with great success. I just want to see how flat this 150 TTSX will shoot for me. I don't shoot past 375 if I can help it, so I am a "point and shoot" guy. smile

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