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Again, how do hunting season's educate every other hunted species and other populations of grizzly bears?

You are talking maybe 5 bear hunters looking for 5 bears. The bulk of the grizzly population would never know they were being hunted. The few that get seen will get shot, all the while the bulk of the population had no idea anyone is looking for them.

You ever take a piss in the woods? You think you might leave some scent?

Oh never mind. No one here ever has a light bulb moment and suddenly gets it.

Can the grizzly bear tell the difference between a hunter that is after him taking a piss or the thousands of guys that hunt elk in the exact same area taking a piss? Guys that have never been in grizzly country really have no clue.

So in your scenario "prey" animals are the same as solo predators?

Animals acclimate to a magnified human presence no doubt... that doesn't relate to solo predators outside the park and away from the presence of daily human contact, nor can you transfer how a prey animal acts to the top predator on four legs.

While a single grizzly "might" be able to be educated by some means (likely being shot and wounded), the idea that all those individual bears spread out over 1000's of square miles will be educated is preposterous.

"Educating" grizzlies is a myth. They're going to do what they want. They aren't prey animals, and don't think or act as such.

I just want them delisted and protections taken away. Would be neat to be able to get a tag, but I'd be happy if I could shoot one out of my chicken coop without going to prison.

No one has mentioned the best part of the link. There are 5 related topics to this article and all of them are the Butte obituaries.

Grizzlies shutdown a big hunting area a long time ago, for sensible people. It's called the Parts of the World Grizzly Bears Live At.

A season may not educate anything. But ongoing pressure will as moms educate their young over time. A number of seasons will educate bears provided their numbers support that--but that taking place appears extremely unlikely.

Government stepped in and put up a fence. Expect more of the same, a precedent is set. The expansion of the urban population mindset in Montana will only encourage it as a bad bear will become a celebrity.

During the recent wolf expansion in the UP, the greater numbers of wolves led to pack education, as boldness (like eating pet dogs on a chain in the yard) eventually ends up pissing off involved people who take matters into their own hands---regardless of what the newspaper editors in Detroit furiously wrote.

Grizzlies don't run in packs, Montana doesn't have a bridge and it sure is a lot harder to dig a hole on a big rock unnoticed.

Guys that support liberal causes really have no clue, as in zero, none.

I support a grizzly season, is that a liberal cause? How many days have you spent in grizzly country? I don't mean the Portland zoo.

Oregon is as liberal as it gets, light blub.

So much for indigenous.

Callnumb
What state are you in?

No in my scenario animals learn over time that humans are to be feared or not. A source of food or not. And it won't change overnight either. We didn't get into this situation overnight. But you pointed out exactly one way that it will happen. Admittedly slowly. How do grizzlies act towards people where they are hunted?

Good question. How do hunted bears behave compared tp park bears?

According to those I have talked to, those bears that are hunted act exactly like the non-hunted here in Montana. One guy I know killed over 50 problem bears as an outfitter in the Yukon... he said they act the same as they do here. Some are aggressive, some aren't. They're all individuals.

There's no "education" that is going to take place with hunting. All we can do as hunters is reduce the numbers, and thereby reduce potential conflict. These are predators, not prey.

now some are not going to like what i feel would be better in the lower 48. > we don`t need wolves, grizzly bears or people with towels on their head in the lower 48

I'd support $5 over the counter resident tags and $10,000 non-resident draw for the shidt eating grizzles. How do you feel about that?

better lower the price on non-resident tags if you want the wolves and bears killed .

Shutting down a hunting area due to the numbers of Grizzlies? LOL!!

TFF.