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Gettin ready for elk season, sounds like this is the shnizzle for loose powder? Anyone runnin it? Should I be trying something else? Thanks


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Best i have used. Have to use hoppes or similar to clean up. Im running barnes 250gn tmz with 110gn by volume powder at aroud 2k the one time i chronoed it. Have shot up to 10 times without cleaning just to see. Minimal accuracy lost, but those barnes do get harder to shove down barrel after 3 shots or so.


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Great stuff

I shoot 75grs by weight


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Thanks guys


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This has been discussed to death, but just in case you missed it, BH209 is great stuff, but only in guns that can use it. It needs hot 209 ignition and projectiles with good bore resistance for proper ignition. If in doubt about your setup, check with the manufacturer of your gun and the Blackhorn site. Most inlines are good to go, but there are some exceptions.


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Yep, "use enough primer."



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Originally Posted by Bearcat74

Great stuff

I shoot 75grs by weight


I weigh the charges I carry in tubes, then set a volume measure to match. I have three measures, and all are a bit different. No biggie, just like with other loose powders; a grain or two difference makes no matter. I just find it easier and neater to weigh the charges for the tubes; no waste or mess.

For the OP, BH weighed charges are 70% of weighed black powder, volume is the same, so if you're using a measure, just set it as per usual with black or 777. Just like 777, BH will likely be a bit faster than BP at the same charge level.

Best to get what you'll need early, this stuff disappears fom the shelves pretty quickly.


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Copy we can run 209’s now, gonna give the federal bor lok copper whatever they’re called a whirl


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Forgot to mention i got a different breechplug for the cva i run. Slightly bigger flash hole i believe. I also use regular winchester shotgun primers, not the 209 primers made for bp. I dont think it makes any difference out here in the desert but might in the rainforest up there.


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Originally Posted by Judman
Copy we can run 209’s now, gonna give the federal bor lok copper whatever they’re called a whirl



Cci 209m or Fed 209a light it off better.


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Originally Posted by Judman
Gettin ready for elk season, sounds like this is the shnizzle for loose powder? Anyone runnin it? Should I be trying something else? Thanks


I love the stuff Jud. You can shoot and shoot till you don’t feel like it any longer. No worrying about cleaning between shots and stuff like that. I typically weigh my charges out and fill the little plastic vials with the weighed charges. Pretty easy to put 4-5 rounds worth in a ziplock and go hunting.


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This is with the Federal Bor Loks you mentioned, the 270’s.

Those Bor Loks are hell on deer

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Not sure I’d wanna run one into an elk, but man they open up and hurt stuff pretty nicely.

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Plain old CCI Magnum 209’s work well for my brother using his CVA Optima as well.


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Nice brother, those are them, I’ll see how they behave on elk in a month... looks like they open up good!!


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Hornady XTP 300gr, crush rib sabot, 100gr by volume Blackhorn
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Another vote for the 300gr XTP over 100gr vol.BH. These bullets are inexpensive, accurate, and are devastating on deer!

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I also use the 300 gr. XTP with a crush rib sabot and B209 powder. I hunt in the timber and most shots are under 100 yards, usually about half that. I use 85 grs. by volume of Blackhorn. Very accurate and consistent, kills deer deader than Disco. Blackhorn is easy to work with. I don't swab between shots while sighting in and practicing, and clean up at the end of the season is a breeze. Hoppe's #9 and B209 crude wipes out easily.


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I mainly use the Speer .458 300gr but sometimes use the Barnes Original PSP .458 in the Black Harvester Crush Rib sabot in my Encore.


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Originally Posted by Judman


Must be a Bass Pro cap. I checked it there and then went to Sportsmans Warehouse and bought it for $39


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It only costs a little bit more to go first class! Lol

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