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Was in my LGS today. He had a near new Kahr in .40 S&W with the 4 inch barrel and the polymer frame. Near new condition. ASKING price was $150.00 and based on prior experience he’d sell it for around $130.00. Have these pistols Really fallen so far in market value? If so, why? They seem reasonably well made and the trigger on mine has a lot of travel, but it’s crisp enough on the discharge. Have the double stack pocket pistols and the 9mm really hammered the utility of a pistol like this down that far?
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Cw40?
.40 is not popular now. I was talking to a guy at LGS. He said they haven’t laced any order for a .40 pistol in a while.
I’ve got 3 cw9’s. A cm9. And an unfired cw45.
Long trigger pull turns people off. I kinda like it.
Plus a kahr takes about 200 rounds to break in.
I shoot everything in my cw9 that i shoot regularly. Brass. Steel. Aluminum. All works.
I’d buy it for $130. Prolly 2.
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I've had steel and plastic Khars in 9mm and .45 ACP, no problems with any of them and a CW45 is my main carry gun now.
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Ohhh, the CW45 I bought NIB for $308.00, dealer said it had sat around too long.
Found out when I got home that 1911 mags fit it.
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I got my P9 when they first appeared on the market back in the late 1990s. Never a jam or malfunction of any kind, even after two small part breakages.
PS Both small parts breakages occurred only after the 4000 round mark, and were made of plastic. The replacement parts sent to me by Kahr were both steel, so they realized the design flaw and fixed it, likely shortly after it was introduced.
PPS That doesn't mean they cannot produce lemons, so you never know if the one that you're referring to is one.
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Simply a reflection of the caliber (40 S&W) not the quality of the pistol. Kahr pistols are top notch. Time marchs on and the 10mm short has been kicked to the curb.
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That's stealing. I'd buy it, and I don't even like .40 cal.
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Me too... if you don't like it you can sell it.. go get it
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If you ever shoot any five gallon water jugs full of water with various calibers, you will love the calibers starting with a 4!!!
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Simply a reflection of the caliber (40 S&W) not the quality of the pistol. Kahr pistols are top notch. Time marchs on and the 10mm short has been kicked to the curb. This exactly. For $130 or $150 it is a steal.
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That's stealing. I'd buy it, and I don't even like .40 cal. Ditto. I'd tolerate the 40 just to have a 4" Kahr at that price.
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I have no need or desire for a 40 S&W, But I'd buy one for $130 in a heartbeat. Almost cannot believe that is not a typo on your post!
I had a CM9, CW9 & CW45, and now have a TP45. They were all fine... I should have never 'moved' the CM9, as it is a perfect pocket pistol.
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I owned one and it was worst performing pistol I've ever had... Wouldn't bother with another especially when there's great options out there like a Glock.
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The only kahrs with good resale value are the pm9 amd pm40, etc.
That said 40 cals dont bring squat.
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I owned one and it was worst performing pistol I've ever had... Wouldn't bother with another especially when there's great options out there like a Glock. Yeah, when introduced in all steel, they were the only gun in that niche, a single stack 9mm about the size of a Walther PP. Then, once again, they were the only single stack 9mm polymer on the market, also that size, when the P9 came out. Since then we've had the Ruger LC9S Pro, and all sorts of others from Walther, Springfield, etc., and now Glock. So, yeah, they're not special anymore, and probably not near the best in the field. But they are still solid guns in that category, and if you don't have one, and you find one that's in good shape for less than $200.00, if yours is reliable, and you learn the trigger, it might just serve you well. PS What was the problem with yours. I've heard that some were lemons. Mine has always been 100% reliable, and I like the trigger pull on it. Never noticed any accuracy problem with it. Only thing wrong was that the first series of their P9 had some small parts that were plastic, and wore out prematurely. They quickly changed those parts to steel, after they noticed so many failures early on.
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Just imagine how cheap dealers can buy 40 S&W pistols at present. For the seller; it comes down to "paper ballistics" versus the wisdom of his role model.
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For $130 you could just buy a small lock box that has a security cable and put it under the seat of your car just so you'll always have something....
I tried a CW9 first and liked it so much when it was time for a compact .380 bought the P380 after trying all the others that were available ...about 5 of my friends have bought them since...no lemons... It's a lot smaller than a G42 or 43...
Earlier this year I was wanting a small 9mm bigger than the P380 but smaller than the Colt Commander I usually carry. Read a couple articles on the CM9 and found one cheap on line...just a great gun.
As much as I like my G19 I much prefer my small gun not be the striker fired SafeAction type as I would never carry any of them without either a holster or a snapover triggerguard. With the Kahr I can just drop the gun in a pocket or IWB with no holster and not have any more worry than a DA revolver....
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When I first got my CW45 it was a jam-o-matic! Sent it in and Kahr replaced the polymer frame. It's been flawless since then and I've shot it enough now that I trust it and it's my CCW. Even in 40 S&W, I'd buy it for under $150!
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Kahrs are good pistols.. I still have three.. But none are in .40 S&W.. If you're OK with the .40 round, then the price is right for sure..
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I'm no huge fan of the .40 S&W, even though I have a nice police-trade-in Glock 22 (mainly just for the low price), but I'm truly amazed at the rate at which it fell from the status of the darling of police forces and serious concealed carriers to a dog that you can't get a decent price for. I guess the flooding of the market with police trade ins was the main driving force behind this phenomenon. It created the general impression that it's something people are trying to get rid of, and nobody wants a gun that everybody is trying to get rid of. It sort of feeds on itself, like a run on the banks or a stock market crash.
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