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Not looking to switch from the Hornady Critical Defense, just curious as to what everybody else likes to use?


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124gr +P Speer Gold Dots


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Federal HST...


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Underwood Xtreme Defender...

XD vs. HST...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClJcJ8LQFbQ&t=33s


...and carrying the XD round in my .38 Super also...30 fps faster than the 9mm +P+...

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I’ve been using Remington Golden Sabers in .380, 9mm, .357, and .45s for several years, but recently was able to acquire some Federal HSTs in most of those cartridges and have now switched over.

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I bought some of the Sig 124gr stuff.

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124+P XTP Hornady American Gunner. Good bullet, good velocity, good pricing at $15 for 25 rounds.


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Underwood +P XD



Federal 124+P and 147 HST

Speer 124+P Gold Dot

Speer 147 Gold Dot

Winchester Ranger T 147

PDX1

Sig Sauer V-Crown 147

ALL good options.


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Originally Posted by Nate40
124gr +P Speer Gold Dots

Ditto.


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Hst 147 grain

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I like the 124gr +P hollow points, I think that they are all good, HST, Critical Duty, Golden Saber Bonded, Gold Dot, PDX1, etc. Afer those I like the 115gr +P hollow points.

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Currently loaded up with Hornady Critical Duty 135gr +P.

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Winchester Ranger LE T-Series..

Would be just as happy with Gold Dot.

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You won’t get better ammo or a better price than this:

https://www.recoilgunworks.com/trad...m_campaign=9.9.2019&utm_medium=email


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Originally Posted by RJM
Underwood Xtreme Defender...

XD vs. HST...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClJcJ8LQFbQ&t=33s


...and carrying the XD round in my .38 Super also...30 fps faster than the 9mm +P+...

Bob


OP, I load the 115gr XPT's to 1050 fps for Wifes P365, hell of a little bullet that penetrates more than most would think, I load the 125gr Barnes to near 1100 fps in her pistol for when I shoot it.

RJM, speaking of the 38 Super, 115gr Lehigh penetrators at 1385 are the chits, so are 125gr Barnes hp's at 1341, both loads run with Longshot.


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124 or 147 grain either in HST or Gold Dot. If I can't get one, I will take the other. Both designs are about the best out there.

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Originally Posted by David_Walter
You won’t get better ammo or a better price than this:

https://www.recoilgunworks.com/trad...m_campaign=9.9.2019&utm_medium=email


David,

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Originally Posted by RJM
Underwood Xtreme Defender...

XD vs. HST...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClJcJ8LQFbQ&t=33s


...and carrying the XD round in my .38 Super also...30 fps faster than the 9mm +P+...

Bob


Yeah, the wound channel & the (extravagant) level of penetration of the XD looks to be impressive, but the reaction on the gelatin block being hit with the HST is considerably more violent in slo-mo..............but I'm not sure what that relates to in real life.

A better comparison might be a Barnes bullet.

Be interesting when they have been out long enough to get some real life man-stopping data.

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Speer 124 grain +P Gold Dots.

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