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Packet or canned sausage gravy? #14119748 09/12/19 Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,585 Kentuck G gunzo OP Campfire Outfitter OP gunzo Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,585 Kentuck Please don't threaten to take my country boy card, I know how to make the real thing. But, for a quickie, some of the instants aren't half bad. I've had 2 brands of the packet stuff, I prefer one, & naturally, wife prefers the other. I usually add a spoon of sausage grease, that helps. A buddy buys it in a can, I haven't tried any of those. If........ you've tried any of these & will admit it, do you have a favorite?

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14119846 09/12/19 Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,631 Hayden, Idaho B BlueDuck Campfire Regular BlueDuck Campfire Regular B Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,631 Hayden, Idaho We lean toward the packaged gravy mixes.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14119971 09/12/19 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho FieldGrade Campfire Ranger FieldGrade Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho I'm sure I'll go to hell for this but.......Pioneer brand package gravy on Pillsbury biscuits purchased at Walmart.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14120108 09/12/19 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana We have used McCormick on occasion. Seems fine. I am MAGA.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14120441 09/12/19 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,908 Time to be someplace else 2 284LUVR Campfire Ranger 284LUVR Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,908 Time to be someplace else I buy a white peppered bag mix from time to time. Can't think of the brand, Good stuff.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14120480 09/12/19 Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV NVhntr Campfire Outfitter NVhntr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV I like the Pioneer black pepper gravy, then I'll add sausage to it. I found their sausage flavor gravy way too salty for my taste. Homemade biscuits only, the Alton Brown recipe. Let's Go Brandon! FJB

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14120529 09/12/19 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 19,578 Central Valley NorKal FatCity67 Campfire Ranger FatCity67 Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 19,578 Central Valley NorKal We keep a couple cans of the Campbells Turkey gravy in the cupboard for emergencies. "Maybe we're all happy." "Go to the sporting goods store. From the files, obtain form 4473. These will contain descriptions of weapons and lists of private ownership."

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? NVhntr #14120557 09/12/19 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,908 Time to be someplace else 2 284LUVR Campfire Ranger 284LUVR Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,908 Time to be someplace else Originally Posted by 284LUVR I buy a white peppered bag mix from time to time. Can't think of the brand, Good stuff. Originally Posted by NVhntr I like the Pioneer black pepper gravy, then I'll add sausage to it. I found they're sausage flavor gravy way too salty for my taste. Homemade biscuits only, the Alton Brown recipe. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? NVhntr #14120610 09/12/19 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho FieldGrade Campfire Ranger FieldGrade Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho Originally Posted by NVhntr I like the Pioneer black pepper gravy, then I'll add sausage to it. +1 1/2 pound of Jimmy Dean.........hold the maple.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14120630 09/12/19 Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,951 T tmitch Campfire Tracker tmitch Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,951 I admit to using the packets time to time. Quick, easy and fills a void. I also keep a couple bags of Jimmy Dean sausage crumbles in the freezer to add to it or scrambled eggs. Some days quick and easy takes precedence. Charter Member Ancient order of the 1895 Winchester "It's an insecure and petite man who demands all others like what he likes and dislike what he dislikes." szihn

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14120652 09/12/19 Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 21,763 Clinging to our God and Guns Dillonbuck Campfire Ranger Dillonbuck Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 21,763 Clinging to our God and Guns I was going to bust on bought gravy. Wouldn't have it in my house, tried some at father in law's, sucks. That said, i can eat some sausage gravy in a resturant, have had some that was good. Most likely, bought, not made there. Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? BlueDuck #14121677 09/12/19 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO Prwlr Campfire Outfitter Prwlr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO Originally Posted by BlueDuck We lean toward the packaged gravy mixes. +1 Often add Jimmy Dean sausage to the mix or some of my pork/elk breakfast sausage mix. Also admit to using Pillsbury biscuits, but sometimes homemade using pork lard. Ed A person who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes the person who never asks is a fool forever. The worst slaves are those that put the chains on themselves.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14122042 09/12/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,890 Texas City, Texas H Henryseale Campfire Regular Henryseale Campfire Regular H Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,890 Texas City, Texas Pioneer brand packaged gravy mix. Serve this with biscuits made with either Pioneer brand biscuit mix or true scratch biscuits. Add crumbled cooked pan sausage of your choice to the gravy, good eats! Add a serving of grits, excellent eats! "...why, land is the only thing in the world worth working for, worth fighting for, worth dying for,... because it is the only thing that lasts."

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14122076 09/12/19 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 16,554 East of Eden (SD) nighthawk Campfire Ranger nighthawk Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2005 Posts: 16,554 East of Eden (SD) For cream (sausage) gravy I don't see the point. Instant might save you 30 seconds. Don't have a country boy card, Dad was a mess Sgt. in WWII and taught me how to make SOS. The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh Which explains a lot.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14122155 09/13/19 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 67,683 N. Central Florida, and Miami Mannlicher Campfire Kahuna Mannlicher Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 67,683 N. Central Florida, and Miami The packaged crap is crap. Sausage gravy is simple and quick. There is no excuse for not making it from scratch. Sam......

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? Mannlicher #14122181 09/13/19 Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 5,449 Boarmaster123 Campfire Tracker Boarmaster123 Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 5,449 Originally Posted by Mannlicher The packaged crap is crap. Sausage gravy is simple and quick. There is no excuse for not making it from scratch. Im with you on this. Life can be rough on us dreamers.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14124719 09/13/19 Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,585 Kentuck G gunzo OP Campfire Outfitter OP gunzo Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,585 Kentuck What is as good as homemade was not the question, because nothing is. But what is the best other crap, if you've had it ? If you haven't ?? Homemade as fast as instant ?? No wonder some call it SOS.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14124834 09/14/19 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 16,554 East of Eden (SD) nighthawk Campfire Ranger nighthawk Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2005 Posts: 16,554 East of Eden (SD) So you add flour to make a roux, maybe a minute, season, and you're where you would be at with the packet stuff. Except you're controlling proportion and seasoning. Or if making a roux is too big a bother use Wondra as you would an instant and season. Somebody even made a recipe though I think a proper roux tastes better. For something different try using a couple ounces of coffee as part of the liquid. Coffee is a good seasoning. The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh Which explains a lot.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? Mannlicher #14127441 09/15/19 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,232 Arkansas Otter Campfire Tracker Otter Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,232 Arkansas Originally Posted by Mannlicher The packaged crap is crap. Sausage gravy is simple and quick. There is no excuse for not making it from scratch. Our 7 y/o grand daughter makes a mean sausage gravy and the biscuits - from scratch. If she can do it at that age grownups ought to be able to as well. I have never used packaged or canned versions, too easy to do the real thing. YMMV Someday I hope to be the person my dogs think I am . . . The only true cost of having a dog is its death. Someone once said "a nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves." Shiloh Sharps . . . there is no substitute. NRA Endowment Member

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14162691 09/29/19 Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 5,007 H Hogwild7 Campfire Tracker Hogwild7 Campfire Tracker H Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 5,007 This is just sad. Make the real thing. Our cooks at work use pioneer mix . They should be fired for it.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14162928 09/29/19 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho FieldGrade Campfire Ranger FieldGrade Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho How many of you gravy snobs eat at fast food restaurants? Be honest.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14162957 09/29/19 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana Hell....I bet they grind their own flour. Mill their own grits even.....raise their own pigs and milk their own cows even..... I am MAGA.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14162980 09/29/19 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 38,851 South of Minnesota 5sdad Campfire 'Bwana 5sdad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 38,851 South of Minnesota I must say that I am pleasantly amazed that there has been so much gentleness and kindness displayed in most of the responses. I am completely at a loss that it has not been stated with due fervor that even if such sacrilege is perpetrated, it must still be committed in a cast iron skillet. Last edited by 5sdad; 09/29/19. Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile. Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe) Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? 5sdad #14163087 09/29/19 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana Originally Posted by 5sdad I must say that I am pleasantly amazed that there has been so much gentleness and kindness displayed in most of the responses. I am completely at a loss that it has not been stated with due fervor that even if such sacrilege is perpetrated, it must still be committed in a cast iron skillet. Well, thats just a given. I am MAGA.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? Jim_Conrad #14163292 09/29/19 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho FieldGrade Campfire Ranger FieldGrade Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad Hell....I bet they grind their own flour. Mill their own grits even.....raise their own pigs and milk their own cows even..... I only use imported Grits......RRconductor sends me a care package from MO every now and then.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? 5sdad #14163389 09/29/19 Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV NVhntr Campfire Outfitter NVhntr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV Originally Posted by 5sdad I must say that I am pleasantly amazed that there has been so much gentleness and kindness displayed in most of the responses. I am completely at a loss that it has not been stated with due fervor that even if such sacrilege is perpetrated, it must still be committed in a cast iron skillet. Let's Go Brandon! FJB

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14163467 09/29/19 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana You bastid! I am MAGA.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? Jim_Conrad #14164188 09/29/19 Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV NVhntr Campfire Outfitter NVhntr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV Rebel bastid, that's me! Let's Go Brandon! FJB

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14164327 09/29/19 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana I burn everything I cook in stainless or aluminum now. I am MAGA.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14175463 10/03/19 Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 4,147 Arid-zona Grid: DM43ck Owl Campfire Tracker Owl Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 4,147 Arid-zona Grid: DM43ck I usually just make homemade, although I have used a packet once or twice. The other day I saw some canned in the store and tried it. Was not very good. So a few days later, I see a can of Campbell's in the store and bought one. Too chicken to try it due the bad experience with the last can. James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14175484 10/03/19 Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 4,147 Arid-zona Grid: DM43ck Owl Campfire Tracker Owl Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 4,147 Arid-zona Grid: DM43ck This is what my mother made for me when I wanted a hot breakfast before school. Instead of sausage gravy, it was EGG gravy. This is a batch I made for myself a while back, Poured over the top of 3-4 slices of broken up toast. Properly seasoned with fresh cracked black pepper. James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14184696 10/07/19 Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,031 show me mo R rockchucker Campfire Outfitter rockchucker Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,031 show me mo ive used the walmart brand canned sausage gravy at deer camp, it's ok FJB

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? Owl #14185322 10/07/19 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho FieldGrade Campfire Ranger FieldGrade Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho Originally Posted by Owl This is what my mother made for me when I wanted a hot breakfast before school. Instead of sausage gravy, it was EGG gravy. This is a batch I made for myself a while back, Poured over the top of 3-4 slices of broken up toast. Properly seasoned with fresh cracked black pepper. I made an Egg Gravy/Creamed Eggs post recently. My mom served it on toast too but now that I'm growed up and rich I use biscuits.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14185371 10/07/19 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana Never heard of such a thing. I am MAGA.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14185444 10/07/19 Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 60,730 Iowa/NW Ontario W wabigoon Campfire Kahuna wabigoon Campfire Kahuna W Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 60,730 Iowa/NW Ontario Big James, I love your honesty. These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? Jim_Conrad #14185451 10/07/19 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho FieldGrade Campfire Ranger FieldGrade Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho Oh it's definitely a thing. And BTW......for those that don't believe that I'm all growed up and rich Here's proof that I only cook my organically produced Biscuits and Gravy on Vintage Cast Iron.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14185572 10/07/19 Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV NVhntr Campfire Outfitter NVhntr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV That's some good eating right there, cast iron or not. Let's Go Brandon! FJB

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14185612 10/07/19 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,088 South Carolina MadMooner Campfire Ranger MadMooner Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,088 South Carolina I ain’t gonna turn my nose up to a package mix, but homemade is pretty quick and simple. And I enjoy making it. Can’t say for sure I’ve had canned? Made chicken fried steak over the weekend and some bacon gravy to go on top. T’was fabulous. “Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14185615 10/07/19 Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV NVhntr Campfire Outfitter NVhntr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV I make homemade gravy and I make homemade biscuits, but sometimes quick is good enough. Especially if your camp cooking. And in that case I do use cast iron. Let's Go Brandon! FJB

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14185744 10/07/19 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 16,554 East of Eden (SD) nighthawk Campfire Ranger nighthawk Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2005 Posts: 16,554 East of Eden (SD) Quick is what mystifies me. Brown your sausage which you have to do anyway. Add enough flour to soak up the grease, give it a couple stirs to brown it. Add milk, salt, pepper, garlic powder, a very little hot pepper flakes. Bring to a boil while stirring and eat. How much quicker can instant be? The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh Which explains a lot.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? nighthawk #14185785 10/07/19 Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV NVhntr Campfire Outfitter NVhntr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV Originally Posted by nighthawk Quick is what mystifies me. Brown your sausage which you have to do anyway. Add enough flour to soak up the grease, give it a couple stirs to brown it. Add milk, salt, pepper, garlic powder, a very little hot pepper flakes. Bring to a boil while stirring and eat. How much quicker can instant be? I can make the Pioneer package mix in 2-1/2 minutes, Haven't made a batch from scratch anywhere near that fast ever. Boil 1-1/2 cups water in microwave, mix package with 1/2 cup cool water, combine, enjoy. No one said it was as good as scratch, but it is surprisingly good for package gravy. Let's Go Brandon! FJB

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? NVhntr #14185815 10/07/19 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho FieldGrade Campfire Ranger FieldGrade Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho Originally Posted by NVhntr That's some good eating right there, cast iron or not. Yep.....Like you said "nobody's saying it's better than home brewed cause it ain't" but sometimes I have better things to do or just don't have the gumption so it's an easy alternative. PS......the skillet and griddle are made by lodge and hardly vintage which the purists also turn their noses up at. Last edited by FieldGrade; 10/07/19.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14185934 10/07/19 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 16,554 East of Eden (SD) nighthawk Campfire Ranger nighthawk Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2005 Posts: 16,554 East of Eden (SD) Originally Posted by NVhntr [I can make the Pioneer package mix in 2-1/2 minutes, Haven't made a batch from scratch anywhere near that fast ever. Yup quicker, might take me 4 or 5 minutes once the meat is browned. Can't say the extra few minutes ever worried me. Not to say I'm against the stuff, my cousin uses some brand that he gets cheap and it's not bad if you add pepper. The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh Which explains a lot.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14186206 10/08/19 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 67,683 N. Central Florida, and Miami Mannlicher Campfire Kahuna Mannlicher Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 67,683 N. Central Florida, and Miami Originally Posted by gunzo What is as good as homemade was not the question, because nothing is. But what is the best other crap, if you've had it ? If you haven't ?? Homemade as fast as instant ?? No wonder some call it SOS. I have been offered package gravy, tried it, and realized it was crap. The powder kind is literally no faster than scratch. The canned stuff is inedible. Sam......

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14186246 10/08/19 Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,031 show me mo R rockchucker Campfire Outfitter rockchucker Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,031 show me mo the reason i use the canned or package is, i precook my bacon, sausage, ham, biscuits, and potatoes at home for several days of breakfasts at the farm during deer season, keeps the smell of the clothes and gives my a little more sleep time FJB

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14186404 10/08/19 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,270 Montana Thats a good reason! I am MAGA.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? rockchucker #14186418 10/08/19 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 44,146 south of south local_dirt Campfire 'Bwana local_dirt Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 44,146 south of south Originally Posted by rockchucker the reason i use the canned or package is, i precook my bacon, sausage, ham, biscuits, and potatoes at home for several days of breakfasts at the farm during deer season, keeps the smell of the clothes and gives my a little more sleep time That's actually a pretty good idea. Otherwise, I've never made it any other way, but from scratch. Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14186543 10/08/19 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 16,554 East of Eden (SD) nighthawk Campfire Ranger nighthawk Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2005 Posts: 16,554 East of Eden (SD) What Dad used to do sometimes is brown the meat, add flour and seasoning, let it toast and freeze half of that for another day. The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh Which explains a lot.

Re: Packet or canned sausage gravy? gunzo #14192118 10/10/19 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 19,578 Central Valley NorKal FatCity67 Campfire Ranger FatCity67 Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 19,578 Central Valley NorKal So from a cast iron roasted tri-tip last night... To the left over all beef fat and seasonings pan gravy this morning. I think leaving the drippings and seasoning in the skillet all night in the cold oven did something magical. "Maybe we're all happy." "Go to the sporting goods store. From the files, obtain form 4473. These will contain descriptions of weapons and lists of private ownership."