Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire You call this science? 2 billion year error?

It is a claim that the bible is the word of God....this is something that needs to be established before it can be rationally accepted as the word of God, and not just taken on faith.

The "science" gig goes like this:

Ya see something.

Ya make up a story about why the thing ya saw, was the thing ya saw.

Ya hope simple people will have faith in it.

When somebody else comes up with a better story than you, you go back ta work in a different direction.

All ya need for true believers, is a story they want ta hear.

This sounds like the excuses that I used to hear about slide rules and approximation.

Science figured how out its possible for birds to fly through the Principles of Flight (POF)
no one other than a total kook level christian would deny the science behind the established findings.

but did a person called Jesus actually walk on water and ascend into the clouds and by what verified method and means?

The Golden Rule is a fundamental principle that has not been refuted to this day.

It's in the Bible.

No one other than a total kook level socialist would deny the perfection of this established truism.

The Golden Rule is also in Buddhism, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

Does that make all of there myths true as well?

You come to an intersection and there are two wrecked cars, broken glass, skid marks and people injured, you know that there was an accident but it is not clear how it happened or who was at fault, that remains to be determined. At no point is there faith involved unless you start making up stories without the necessary information, yet assume that you have the truth, it being that assumption of truth that becomes an article of faith.

Makes em more true than cold fusion, nuclear winter, life on Mars found in a meteorite, AGW, miracle drugs that kill ya, and alla the other BS that the faithful acccepted as science-backed truth.

If there was 3 witnesses to that wreck, you're gonna get 3 different stories bout what happened.

A scientist would pick one, declare it proven, and run ta get funding with it.

True faithful believers would back that scientist's delusion/conclusion on internet forums.

I wasn't talking about witness testimony alone, often being notoriously unreliable, but the overall evidence...perhaps there was a CCTV camera, the skid marks provide information, witnesses may completely agree on some points, etc.

The point being, it takes investigation to come to the truth. Even then, some details may be lost.

And, that's where the scientists come in.

They conjure up a bullshit theory, that's designed ta be attractive to a certain segment of the population, i.e., the ones that'll give scientists money.

Then request funding to study the theory.

Then jump into the "science" gig routine I posted before.

Just realized the science gig thing was based upon my observations of scientists.

So, that makes my observations of the science gig theory the overall evidence.

My investigation has revealed the truth.

Which makes the science gig theory scientific.

Now all I gotta do is work on the funding part.

Never realized how easy this science stuff was.

One last try You started off with:


The part I underlined makes for a very big assumption. One might say that by stating God thinks sequentially you must assume that God is constrained by time. Wouldn't be able to think without it.

Into the metaphysical, if God created all things, which includes time, how can he be constrained by time? He could simply un-create time. What then were the conditions before time was created? How did God "think?" Or if time had to exist before God could exist, who created time?

Is it an assumption that a thought or an event has a beginning a middle and an end? Can a thought begin a the end and finish at the start? Can you come back from work in the afternoon before you start out in the morning? The progression of an event is the rate and progression of time.

Yes it is, outside of our universe. Just because that's the way it works living in our three dimensions doesn't mean that's the way it works elsewhere. Since you can have no knowledge of what happens outside of our universe how could it not be an assumption

Ok, so logic and reason does not exist outside our universe, in gods world the end can be the beginning and the middle can be the end and despite things happening, there is no time, everything is frozen in time, yet happening randomly....gotcha!

I'm still waiting for NH's evidence this god dimension exists.

Scientific minds consider and correlate objective evidence like; CCTV, onboard cameras, mobile activity,
driver toxicology , meteorological and environmental conditions , mechanical condition or failure , skid patterns,
stuck speedometer needles,...etc, etc.

simply because numerous eyewitness accounts from 30 minutes ago can all be erroneous,
now think of the ones passed down the line from impressionable superstitious minds from 2000 yrs ago.

thankfully Air crash investigations , and road vehicle, aircraft and military hardware developmental testing
also follow the scientific approach.

The misrepresentation of science on display is amazing.

Time is the rates of change within the physical dimensions of height, width and depth. This applies to two dimensions or more. Time is inseparable from space, ie, timespace. Check out general relativity.