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I work with a guy to whom God speaks and gives pretty direct orders and information. If God cared to do the same with me, maybe I'd believe in him. I've always wondered why God doesn't think of us all as equal.

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And why he gives babies and children cancer - no creationist can explain this, nor even try to, they just ignore and move on


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I work with a guy to whom God speaks and gives pretty direct orders and information. If God cared to do the same with me,
maybe I'd believe in him.
I've always wondered why God doesn't think of us all as equal.


The good shepherd only needs to guide the sick, lost and wayward sheep.

So if he aint got need to instruct you, kick your stubborn ass or drag you by the scruff .. It may be a very good sign.


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It’s all a mystery wrapped in a infinite enigma. There arent enough facts to proves anything on anyone and it’s so convoluted that there’s no answer.

It’s all filler for a bored society where time is the only constant.


I had to steal this from a totally different thread topic , since it equally applies to the mythology of the religious crowd.


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.... The good shepherd only needs to guide the sick, lost and wayward sheep.....


So why does he let babies and children die of cancer before they have a chance to accept jesus as their saviour thereby condeming them to hell. That's one cruel puppet master.


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which hell specifically?

Different Hebrew and Greek words are translated as "Hell" in most English-language Bibles. They include:

Sheol, Hades, transliterated do not typically refer to the place of eternal punishment, but to the grave,
the temporary abode of the dead, [the underworld].

"Gehenna" "Hell" or "Hell fire" in many English versions.

The Greek verb ταρταρῶ (tartarō, derived from Tartarus)), which occurs once in the New Testament (in 2 Peter 2:4), is almost always
translated by a phrase such as "thrown down to hell". A few translations render it as "Tartarus"; of this term, the Holman Christian
Standard Bible states: "Tartarus is a Greek name for a subterranean place of divine punishment lower than Hades."[2 Peter 2:4]

(no doubt a disappointment to fire & brimstone christian types)

When Hebrew Torah scripture was translated into Greek in Alexandria (Septuagint) 3rd century BC

they replaced Hebrew words like 'Sheol', with 'Hades' which comes from Greek pagan mythology
which refers to the pagan mythological underworld....N.T. English translation scriptures commonly
use the words HADES or HELL. as evidenced in Luke and Matthew.


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Irrelevant - doesn't answer the question


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nOt irrelevant , because you said 'condemned to hell' which depends on which version of hell one believes in,


either;.. eternal burning damnation in hell (Christian jag-X type) or Hebrew hell (book of Job) which is a restful sleepy
still and quiet state holding yard, (which God has the keys to) till released for judgement.
then you either go to heaven or get totally destroyed-annihilated by being consumed in the lake of fire.

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In all those crackers, or at least that's the answer if you are Catholic.


had my share of 'body of christ' wafers, now if they just infused them with some butter and maple,
you'd have a lot more people going to confession.

Allergy Warning!!...The Vatican emphatically states Sacramental bread MUST contain gluten.


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I have not read thorough this entire thread, but it seems ironic that creationists are always quick to point out how scientists are changing their theories, but how many different religions do we have? How many flavors of christianity do we have at present? I will give you a hint, more than one.

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Okay, lets assume the "get totally destroyed-annihilated by being consumed in the lake of fire" type hell - now answer the question: godless infant dies of cancer and goes to this hell - why?


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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
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.... The good shepherd only needs to guide the sick, lost and wayward sheep.....


So why does he let babies and children die of cancer before they have a chance to accept jesus as their saviour thereby condeming them to hell. That's one cruel puppet master.


What you call "cruel puppet master" is actually an Infinitely Wise God Who cursed the universe. If you actually read the Bible carefully you would know God is no respecter of people. Age is not considered as far as the consequence of Adam's sin.

About the kids, careful study of God's Word shows God has an age when He imputes guilt. That age is twenty. Below that all souls are saved from hell. Above that they are responsible to accept God's Gift of His Son to be saved from hell.


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Originally Posted by Ringman
. That age is twenty. Below that all souls are saved from hell.


Where does Bible specify the 'age of accountability' as 20..?


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What about chemical imbalances in the brain or just wired wrong, imparing decision making?

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in cultures and neighborhoods where kids grow up much faster than others, it seems they can skate through and get away
with a lot of schitt before they reach 20...

mY understanding is that God will assess each individually which means ages can vary.


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So you're better off killing the kids before they become "eligible" for hell


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Only the good die young?

at least it gets you away from the bad and the ugly...


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Or God, being omniscient and omnipotent, could simply have created suitable subjects or companions without all the fuss, drama, evil, suffering, hell and damnation.

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He needed sheep to keep His lawns short.

Where there are sheep you will find wolves, .."son I got a job for you- here's your crook.."


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How do they judge an infant that has gone to the "restful sleepy" hell - they can't talk or even think


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Infants just pass 'GO" and collect $200.


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I think that Church hierarchy of the middle ages justified torturing 'heretics' using the rationale that it is better for the soul of the victim to suffer finitely under the gentle hand of the church than be subject to eternal torment under the God of Love.

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