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Re: Least hyped hunting cartridge that became popular [Re: southtexas] #14124735 09/13/19
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Originally Posted by southtexas
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or maybe WSSMs?

My experience with the WSSMS proved to me that there are about 5 reasons why they were ill-conceived. And I still have one.It will become something else sometime soon yes, hyped, and crap, and deservedly unpopular. Everyone seems to know it too.



Just curious. What else can you put into those super short actions?

22-250, but not one for shooting longer bullets, as the COL is limited. And any cartridge designed to shoot in an AR-15 platform. I'm thinking 45 Bushmaster. I suspect they will even feed from the magazine with some minimal feedramp work. A Bushmaster with a PMAX of 65k is a different animal than the AR version. I think I could get 2700 out of 230gr ball. That would be interesting.


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Re: Least hyped hunting cartridge that became popular [Re: GeoW] #14124749 09/13/19
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Originally Posted by GeoW
In the early 80s I recollect quite a stir over the 7-08 and things started to level off in the 90s.


Geo


I remember a lot of interest and press per the 7-08 in the 80s as well.
? Maybe depends on what one was reading ?

Also I remember the 260 R splash following the 7-08.
One GW even wrote that the 260 outperformed the 270 in ballistics. I once had the
magazine, American Rifleman OR Hunter.

He really touted Remington’s claim but it didn’t live up to the press.

On the 284W, I don’t remember when it came on the scene OR maybe I wasn’t
reading the right rags. What I remember is the 284 wasn’t enjoying the popularity
that IMO it deserved.

Today I have a 98, 284 W with 21” bll and its ballistics are very pleasing to me
w/o having to stand on the throttle. I’m getting 3000 FPS with 139 HBTSP &
“Surplus” 4831. That IS 270 W territory. I DID get 3000 FPS with 140 HBTSP
in the 270 W but at HIgher pressure loads.

* I know the ballistic diff in 140s between 277 & 284. *

I still like the look of the 284 case FWIW. Personal preference.

Jerry

ps: Personal Preference .....
I like the looks of 6mm REM over the 243.
I like the looks of 30-06 over the 308 and prefer the minimal ballistical advantage.
I like the looks of the 300 WM over the 308 N M
et.al.

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Re: Least hyped hunting cartridge that became popular [Re: TnBigBore] #14124762 09/13/19
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Re: Least hyped hunting cartridge that became popular [Re: Quak] #14124773 09/13/19
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Originally Posted by Quak
Easy...7mm-08


Where were you guys in the 80s ? The 7-08 had plenty hype.

Jerry


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i had a custom 7mm-08 before manufactures ever chambered them or reloading books had this fine cartridge in their books.

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Re: Least hyped hunting cartridge that became popular [Re: alwaysoutdoors] #14125015 09/14/19
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6mm rem


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Re: Least hyped hunting cartridge that became popular [Re: HuntnShoot] #14125175 09/14/19
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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by southtexas
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Originally Posted by southtexas
or maybe WSSMs?

My experience with the WSSMS proved to me that there are about 5 reasons why they were ill-conceived. And I still have one.It will become something else sometime soon yes, hyped, and crap, and deservedly unpopular. Everyone seems to know it too.



Just curious. What else can you put into those super short actions?

22-250, but not one for shooting longer bullets, as the COL is limited. And any cartridge designed to shoot in an AR-15 platform. I'm thinking 45 Bushmaster. I suspect they will even feed from the magazine with some minimal feedramp work. A Bushmaster with a PMAX of 65k is a different animal than the AR version. I think I could get 2700 out of 230gr ball. That would be interesting.


Wouldn't that require some modification of the bolt face? If a 22-250 is possible, then a 250 Savage should work...

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Re: Least hyped hunting cartridge that became popular [Re: RMiller2] #14125208 09/14/19
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Originally Posted by RMiller2
In the guns stores around here a 7mm08 would be a special order item. It is all 243, 308, 25-06, 270, 30-06, 7mm Rem mag and 300 in mag. There is a 6.5 Manbun in every make as well.
The 7mm-08 is not "popular" by any stretch of the imagination in my AO either. The 6.5 Creedmoor is far more prevalent/available and clearly kicking the 7-08's ass in sales.

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Originally Posted by southtexas
or maybe WSSMs?


SAUM

Re: Least hyped hunting cartridge that became popular [Re: TnBigBore] #14125237 09/14/19
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7-08 is a top 5 or 10 cartridge up here. I’d say the list goes something like this

Big game
1)308 (in addition to bolt guns there are a lot of 99s and AR10s plus tacti-[bleep])
2)30-06
3)270
4)7rm
5)7-08 or 6.5cm (6.5 gaining speed due to tacti-[bleep] crowd...and it’s a great round)

Bravo

Re: Least hyped hunting cartridge that became popular [Re: Dre] #14125257 09/14/19
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Originally Posted by Dre
6.5 variants.
6.5 Swede has been around for ever. But now we have 6.5 CM, 6.5PRC, 26 Nosler ,6.5-300...
When did 7-08 become main stream like the 6.5 CM?


Presently the 6.5’s are mainstream on the forums and the mags only. With exceptions, not so much so in the fields.

We can wonder around the woods or fields if you like, and I will give you a dollar for every 6.5 we come across, if you give me 50 cents for every one that isn’t.

Back in the 80’s the 7mm-08 was mainstream, being hyped as the modern day popular equivalent of the .30-30 in its day. The Southern crew was especially hyped. Layne Simpson being one writer who was saying it was the next beeeeg Deer killer.

They all come and go eventually.

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Re: Least hyped hunting cartridge that became popular [Re: southtexas] #14125306 09/14/19
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Originally Posted by southtexas
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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by southtexas
or maybe WSSMs?

My experience with the WSSMS proved to me that there are about 5 reasons why they were ill-conceived. And I still have one.It will become something else sometime soon yes, hyped, and crap, and deservedly unpopular. Everyone seems to know it too.



Just curious. What else can you put into those super short actions?

22-250, but not one for shooting longer bullets, as the COL is limited. And any cartridge designed to shoot in an AR-15 platform. I'm thinking 45 Bushmaster. I suspect they will even feed from the magazine with some minimal feedramp work. A Bushmaster with a PMAX of 65k is a different animal than the AR version. I think I could get 2700 out of 230gr ball. That would be interesting.


Wouldn't that require some modification of the bolt face? If a 22-250 is possible, then a 250 Savage should work...

Yes, but mine is a Browning. Simple bolt face swap. The 250 has the same limitations as the 22-250 as far as COL, and is thus handicapped in a SS action.


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Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by Dre
6.5 variants.
6.5 Swede has been around for ever. But now we have 6.5 CM, 6.5PRC, 26 Nosler ,6.5-300...
When did 7-08 become main stream like the 6.5 CM?



We can wonder around the woods or fields if you like, and I will give you a dollar for every 6.5 we come across, if you give me 50 cents for every one that isn’t.

Back in the 80’s the 7mm-08 was mainstream, being hyped as the modern day popular equivalent of the .30-30 in its day. The Southern crew was especially hyped. Layne Simpson being one writer who was saying it was the next beeeeg Deer killer.


+ 2 or 3

From ‘95——> 2012 i was in a large deer lease, a few K acres & 100+ members.
NO one carried a 6.5 Anything !

Actually since 2011 when I got my Swede, I know EXACTLY 1 hunter who even knew
what a 6.5 X 55 is.

Jerry


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I'll second the 6.5 Creedmoor for this category, too.

It was created to be a Target cartridge in '05 and introduced by Hornady in '07 as such.

I couldn't have given a crap, nor could most of y'all.

Back in O'Connor's day he could get out maybe two dozen stories a year in magazines, but that was enough for my Dad to purchase a Model 70 .270 in 1952 to celebrate surviving two years of air combat over North Korea.

Even in this age of computers and hundred of sites for shooters it took almost a decade for the Creed to become the darling of the internet and in the hunting fields.

The Explosion of PRS competition and a swell of interest in sniping and long range hunting thanks to websites and popular movies and books about the former stoked it higher.


I turn 60 this week and have been a shooter since I was four and a voracious reader of gunology and hunting since the mid-60s. Hell, I even wrote for gun magazines from '95-'13 to support my LE hobby!

And I firmly believe the Creed is now the most popular new round in my life thus far.

Dammit! Whilst perusing my nearest Wally World's ammo selection yesterday, I saw more variations of 6.5 Creed available than any C.F. Rifle cal. save the 5.56/.223. There was even a box of 50 or 60 open tip match loads for less than $60!

I live in TN's 4th biggest city/county and there's only one store in my county that has ammo for my .260 Remington CTR!

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