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I looked at a Springfield XD 45 for $220 today. It was at the most active gunstore in the state, and had "been there a while" according to the store.
The frame had been painted tan with what seemed like PlastiKote, but otherwise in good shape - tight, clean trigger, etc. Its pretty much dying in the case.
Saw more .40s and .45s than 9mm's in the used displays too. A like new Glock 23 for $299, that kind of thing.
Heavily worn CZ 75s in 9mm were $400. Even old Smith S/As in 9mm that used to be hard sells had hefty tags. I guess theyre not anymore.

It was a little weird to me, once I started scanning the inventory instead of just following my interests.

Is this a widespread thing? Seems like the general public is skewed hard toward's 9mm.


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Great deal and also a really good deal on the Glock 23.

Don’t find any deals like that hereabouts.

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Yeah it was hard to pass on some of what I saw. But most of the deals would have been duplicates to me, so...

The XD in particular almost got me.


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Talked to a guy at the LGS couple weeks ago. They had several .40 and .380 pistols on heavy discount.

He told me they haven’t ordered any .40 pistols in awhile. Just aren’t moving.

Another place i stopped in doesn’t stock much. Had a kahr cw40 NIB for $250.


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I own a good amount of handgun in a wide variety of calibers, but none are .40 caliber. Never saw a need nor had a desire for anything in .40 caliber.

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Posted this in the "Death Knell" thread:

2018 interim atf statistics on pistols manufactured:

TO 9MM 2,009,514
TO .50 502,317

Looks like 9mm is running 4 times 40 and 45 combined.

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What I saw would back it up.

I suppose I can understand the drop in .40 - with so many agencies switching to 9mm I would expect many people to follow suit, and I'd imagine that the net/magazines reinforce it.
Cost of shooting will always keep a percentage of shooters away from .45 too.

But I was still surprised. I just didn't expect to see such an obvious swing.


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Originally Posted by RufusG
Posted this in the "Death Knell" thread:

2018 interim atf statistics on pistols manufactured:

TO 9MM 2,009,514
TO .50 502,317

Looks like 9mm is running 4 times 40 and 45 combined.


Wouldn’t .22lr be in the 9mm and under category, skewing things that way?

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Originally Posted by K1500
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Posted this in the "Death Knell" thread:

2018 interim atf statistics on pistols manufactured:

TO 9MM 2,009,514
TO .50 502,317

Looks like 9mm is running 4 times 40 and 45 combined.


Wouldn’t .22lr be in the 9mm and under category, skewing things that way?


along with 38/357?????


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Neither. Revolvers are separate stats. And I didn't show the group below 9mm, which is "To .380", which means the "To 9mm" number is everything (semiauto) that's bigger than .380, but not bigger than 9mm.

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I'm certainly thinking that it is. Have you seen the higher priced factory ammo for everything else? I've got a .380, .38 and a .45, but I'm sure looking at a 9 for punching paper.

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Originally Posted by Windfall
I'm certainly thinking that it is. Have you seen the higher priced factory ammo for everything else? I've got a .380, .38 and a .45, but I'm sure looking at a 9 for punching paper.

It being the US Military round, like 5.56 NATO, helps. All the big makers are geared up for constant mass production of 9mm and 5.56. They only produce other rounds in periodic lots.

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Thank you for the revelation and the heads up on this. Situational awareness is the gift to have when making decisions of such importance.


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Ahhhh... sarcasm in the morning...
I guess someone was bored.


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Originally Posted by kragman1
Ahhhh... sarcasm in the morning...
I guess someone was bored.


He's always bored and sarcastic.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by kragman1
Ahhhh... sarcasm in the morning...
I guess someone was bored.


He's always bored and sarcastic.


And a dumbphuck.


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Is it a 9mm world?
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But then what does the general public know?

about guns, even less


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I have others.

But I buy, load, and shoot 9mm at probably a 20:1 ratio for anything else.


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