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Do any members have any real world experience with Mossberg Patriot rifles?
A local store has them on special with a Vortex scope for $300.
I am thinking about getting a loaner rifle for friends to learn to shoot and with so I am looking at the lighter recoiling 308Win, 243Win and 6.5 Creedmoor.
Thanks in advance for any insights you might have.
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I have a Patriot in 6.5 Creedmoor with the Cerakoted barreled action. I've only shot factory ammo in it, no bedding or tuning, just straight out of the box, and it has shot around 1.5 MOA with less than 60 rounds fired. My rifle wasn't used in wet weather, so I don't know how well the finish will hold up, but it you take reasonable care of it, I would expect it to hold up better than uncoated blued steel, but probably not as well as stainless.
I also have a Savage Axis in 6.5 Creedmoor and the Mossberg is, IMO, a much better and more substantial feeling rifle.
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This was last week. The model was a Patriot Super Bantam:
"FINALLY got to play with a Mossberg Patriot. Handled a few in the LGS's but that's it. A friend of my son bought his wife a scoped/combo youth model in .243Win. She is a work away RN who is home only twice a month so the only time to get this set up for season was on the afternoon of day they called me. With any firearm whether new or used I like to spend as much time giving it a going over until I feel it's good to go before shooting it. Couldn't happen this time. I didn't remove the bbl'd action from the stock. Ran a bore snake through it. Got the chamber dry. Lubed behind the locking lugs and in the cocking cam slot. Didn't seem to be an excessive amount of oil in the action but I did wipe down what I saw. Checked the action screws. Checked for fore arm pressure on the bbl and found it not only to be free floated but centered in the bbl channel. Scope was canted a bit and the knurled knobs that hold the rings to the bases weren't tight enough. I removed the scoped rings and found the bases tight (guessing they were loc-tited). Leveled the 3-9x40 scope (didn't think to check the brand) and adjusted it for optimum eye relief after setting the focus for her. Although I didn't measure the LOP of the stock I'd say was in the 12 or 12.5 " range. Bore sighted it. ~45 minutes later after having them standing around watching me I felt it was ready to go. LUCKILY my wife kept them occupied talking. The ammo was Federal Blue box 100gr SP's. I had her dry fire it few times to feel the trigger. NICE at maybe 3.5lbs. I've got an old Outter's Varmint Rest mounted on an old 450 dozer cage. Pretty stable. First shot was ~2" low but dead center for windage at 25yds. Gave the scope 32 clicks up which put her second shot ~.75" low and still dead center on windage. First shot at 100yds was almost dead center inside the 1.5" circle. Four more shots were all within the 3" diameter circle that surrounded the center one. She did GOOD for someone with very limited shooting experience. Just goes to show what a shooter can do with a rifle that fits,has a decent trigger,and doesn't wallop them at the butt end. As for that particular Patriot you can color me impressed. In fact if it's okay with my granddaughter I'll order her one except without a scope as I have one for it."
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Thank you both for your responses.
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I had a Patriot in 300 Win Mag and I thought it was a pretty good rifle. It was too light for what it was though.
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I have one in 338 Win Mag. Mine is accurate, around 1" 3 shot group at 100 yards with factory ammo and handloads. The trigger is very good. It is light weight and easy to carry, short barrel makes it easy to maneuver in brush and in a tree stand . I got a steal on it, so I figured as a beater rifle that I could use where I wouldn't want to take anything else.
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I had one in 30-06. Wood stock with the Vortex Crossfire 3-9x40. The gun shot well, had a nice trigger, wasn’t heavy but not too light IMO. The scope that comes in that package is definitely the best scope I’ve ever had with a “budget package” gun. Because it is a little on the lightweight side I’d lean towards the softer shooting rounds. I traded it for a Remington 30-06 but I think the Mossberg may have been the better gun...
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Saw that package at Academy yesterday for $300. Considering you could sell the scope for $100+ that's not a bad deal for a starter/beater rifle for sure.
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Don’t think you could go wrong with that deal!
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I had a Bantam in 7-08mm wood stock with quality Sightron scope. Feel and handling was good. The gun was quick to get on target. Trigger was crisp and light. The rifle functioned perfectly. Accuracy was average by grouping all different bullets and powder combinations under 3" at 100 yards. The 120 gr bullets grouped close to 1" with several powders. The group sizes seemed to increase as the bullet weight increased. I was planning on using the outfit for an elk hunt using heavy bullets but decided to go with a Savage that produced sub 1" groups at 100 yards shooting 154 gr Hornadys. I must say the Bantam's shorter stock resulted in better handling when wearing heavy bulky hunting coat. The fit of wood to metal was average. I really liked the feel of the stock which reminded me of the old Winchester 70. If offered the same deal you have, I would buy.
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Many thanks to each member that took the time to share their knowledge and experience with me.
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Recently picked up a Patriot laminate marinecote in .30-06 and shot this group with Winchester XP 150gr.
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Thanks for the information.
Good shooting rifle you have there.
It should be fun to hunt with.
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Got out to the range again and tried some handloads. 165gr BT over 55grs IMR4350 150gr BT over 61.5grs RL19
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Honestly I think the Patriot reveres is a darned good looking rifle
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Several years ago, a friend asked me to get him a Mossberg Youth 243 for his daughter to hunt with, and since he is a very busy fellow, wanted me to zero the scope. This came as a package deal, but it was an el cheapo scope, not a Vortex. This rifle had a terrible trigger, but was accurate enough for a kid to kill a deer at 100 yards or less, as that was the range he'd restricted his daughter to.
So, knowing next to nothing about the Mossberg rifles, have they improved any since then? I have read something about a new trigger, but is it something new, or has it been out for a while?
I'm not interested in one myself, but do have people asking about a cheap rifle from time to time.
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The Patriot is not the old mossberg
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Several years ago, a friend asked me to get him a Mossberg Youth 243 for his daughter to hunt with, and since he is a very busy fellow, wanted me to zero the scope. This came as a package deal, but it was an el cheapo scope, not a Vortex. This rifle had a terrible trigger, but was accurate enough for a kid to kill a deer at 100 yards or less, as that was the range he'd restricted his daughter to.
So, knowing next to nothing about the Mossberg rifles, have they improved any since then? I have read something about a new trigger, but is it something new, or has it been out for a while?
I'm not interested in one myself, but do have people asking about a cheap rifle from time to time. ^^^ what gitem 12 said. The only one I've dealt with is the one in my post above. It impressed me to no end. Now we're only talking about a sample of one so...…….. But I'll have another here hopefully in less than two weeks and we'll see how that one does.
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Saw that package at Academy yesterday for $300. Considering you could sell the scope for $100+ that's not a bad deal for a starter/beater rifle for sure. That is the ad in our Sunday newspaper last week that got me interested in this rifle. I went to several local Academy stores and none had the rifle with a Vortex scope. All of the rifles on this sale had a cheap scope with no brand name and flimsy looking rings and mounts. I could not even focus 2 of the scopes enough to get a clear sight picture.
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