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I did approach a tire shop and they said they would let me have some when they get some.
I asked them if the WW's were lead and they said yes.
They will put my name on a bucket.
I am gonna keep looking.
I am MAGA.
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"Smelt"? You're refining raw ore, or merely melting odds and ends of scrap lead?
"You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty
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I’ve got what looks like a big blanket folded up out in my shop, it a big sheet of 1/4 pure lead. My cousin was doing some wiring on a hospital remodel and heard someone bitching about the hazmat fees for disposal of all this lead. When he asked what they meant they said some contractor was going to charge them some exorbitant fee because all the lead in the walls and doors in the X-ray lab were radioactive and had to be hauled to a special place that was really expensive to be disposed of. When he laughed and told them that lead repels radiation they asked how much he’d charge to remove it if they fired the other outfit.
He cut it into long sheets with a hatchet and folded it up like a stack of blankets and hauled it home. I don’t know how much he has left but one of the doors weighed hundreds of pounds by itself. Plus all the thin stuff like I have that came out of the walls. I can have all I want but it’s 16 hours away and being pure lead I have to scrounge Lino or something to harden it up with.
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"Smelt"? You're refining raw ore, or merely melting odds and ends of scrap lead? Most casters would know what this means.
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I’ve got what looks like a big blanket folded up out in my shop, it a big sheet of 1/4 pure lead. My cousin was doing some wiring on a hospital remodel and heard someone bitching about the hazmat fees for disposal of all this lead. When he asked what they meant they said some contractor was going to charge them some exorbitant fee because all the lead in the walls and doors in the X-ray lab were radioactive and had to be hauled to a special place that was really expensive to be disposed of. When he laughed and told them that lead repels radiation they asked how much he’d charge to remove it if they fired the other outfit. . Ha! i was worried about that then we had a class taught by counter terror specialists from Lawrence Livermore Labs. They too laughed and told me that if was perfectly safe.
Me solum relinquatis
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My friend gave me some lead that had previously been in a radioactive environment.
He said it was mostly safe.......
I am MAGA.
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Is it easy to find in the dark there Jimmy?
I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.
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I have been harvesting lead from scrap leadlines on commercial fishing nets. It's all soft lead and has to be alloyed to raise the hardness.
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If your local range will let you....
you can take a simple square, wood frame, a piece of hardware cloth, and a shovel and go sieve your own.............
Copper jackets will float to the top, skim them off and sell them to the scrap yard............... you will end up with a mix of soft, hardcast, and who knows what, but it's usable, and can be adjusted.............
It doesn't take long to fill a 5 gal bucket doing this............. if you do... don't go by yourself!!!
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My friend gave me some lead that had previously been in a radioactive environment.
He said it was mostly safe.......
KOOL can I buy some from you? I all ways wanted to make glowing bullets. MB
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
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The last couple months I've been going to the local public range that isn't very busy most mornings. It's next to a small airport that used to be an Air Base. When it's dry enough I dig a few inches and run it over a screen, here lately it's been so wet I've only been able to pick up exposed bullets after a rain. So far I've melted enough for 300 lbs of ingots and have enough for about 50 more waiting. Sent a sample off to have tested and it showed .1% Sn, 1.4% Sb. It will vary depending on how many cast bullets I find against how many jacketed. I mostly get 9mm stuff with a smaller number of 40 and 45s. Yesterday I hit the jackpot and found a spot where someone was shooting a 45-70 or similar. The bucket really fills up fast with those cigars.
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Not long ago I had reason to pass by the hill side where I did my early cast bullet shooting as a kid 50 years ago, It was neat to scuff around there and find some old oxidized .30 cast bullets I put there out of a Krag and a Springfield. (I knew they were mine because the spot was next to our old house and it was my "private range".) Naturally I took them home and added them to the melt of my next casting session. Kinda symbolic in some way, I think!
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When I was in college they had a range for the law enforcement students, spent many a day out there after a rainstorm harvesting lead out of the berm. A few times over the years I have been able to buy lead cast into ingots of #2 alloy for very favorable prices, saving me the work of cleaning and alloying reclaimed lead. Earlier this year I was able to purchase 700# for .60/ingot, resold what I didn't need for $1/ingot.
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An old building is being remodeled at work. The contractor gave me access and I snagged about 1500 lbs of lead sinks and pipes and another 750 lbs of lead from doors in an old cobalt 60 rad room. The environmental safety folks say the cobalt 60 was gamma rays only and no risk. One block about 6.5x11x12 weighed in right at 350 lbs and made me feel silly when I tried to move it.
What would Porter Rockwell do?
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Had a stash reduced here recently by about 1,000 pounds. Same "special" individual also stole the battery out of my truck and did it by cutting the hood release cable... Had a friend give me a bunch of soft sheet from an X-Ray booth being remodeled.
Picked up over 60 pounds one afternoon at a popular fishing hole.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Back in the day (the '70's) I built the 7000# keel for my sailboat using primarily clip-on wheelweights scrounged from tire dealers. That avenue has largely dried up. About two years back I purchased over 800# of clip-on wheelweights (stay away from stick-ons ... too soft) by watching the classifieds on the castboolits.gunloads.com website. Veril Smith of LBT fame suggested adding about 1 - 2% tin and about 10% lead shot by weight to the mix. This gives me consistent bullet hardness of 15 - 16 BHN when air cooled. If you are serious about this hobby and intend to use scrounged lead, you need a hardness tester. I have also had good luck casting for my '9's and '40 using water dropped range lead. My testing of range lead has been limited to about four sources of range lead and I found the product varied far more than my cast-on wheelweight purchases ... probably a function of raw material source.
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An old building is being remodeled at work. The contractor gave me access and I snagged about 1500 lbs of lead sinks and pipes and another 750 lbs of lead from doors in an old cobalt 60 rad room. The environmental safety folks say the cobalt 60 was gamma rays only and no risk. One block about 6.5x11x12 weighed in right at 350 lbs and made me feel silly when I tried to move it.
Holy Shiit!! So jealous....
I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.
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I go down to the local scrap yard and pick out what I want from the lead bin and pay them for it. Or drive to the local foundry (45 min away) after placing and order for a few tons.
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Whatever you are willing to put up with, is exactly what you will have.
When your ship comes in. ... make sure you are willing to unload it.
PAYPAL, sucks and I will never use them again. I recommend you do the same.
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I go down to the local scrap yard and pick out what I want from the lead bin and pay them for it. Or drive to the local foundry (45 min away) after placing and order for a few tons. I wish I had local access to a foundry! What does your scrap yard charge you a pound?
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