Maybe a bunch of modern day form of buck and ball rounds for humans loaded in before 1 or 2 breaching rounds. .
Hatton or breaching rounds are primarily to prevent or minimize harm to hostages or innocents, in this particular case there may have been no need for Hattons.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
It’s unfortunate that they took prisoners.
depends, those taken alive may be able to provide very useful information, what you do with them after is another matter.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
An officer (captain) will head a SAS troop (16 men)... 4x troops make a squadron (typically headed by a major) but a smaller team drawn from a troop will usually be led by NCO.
NCOs operate like a small mafia in the SAS, typically they get to choose which officers pass selection..
NCOs stay with the regiment for much longer than young officers who seek advancement, as such they are deeply imbedded in the regiment and in the 'regiments ways'.
its said: "The NCOs are the SAS. Officers come and go but the NCOs provide the continuity."
Originally Posted by UPhiker
I was merely pointing out the mistakes in the article and you jumped on me ....
yeh but he had to jump on you just so he could add the value of his own mistakes.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
This brings me back to a question. Why aren't semi auto shotguns used more often than pump? Are the semi's just not reliable enough for CQC?
Beats me. Never understood it. Today the short recoil / beretta style system ain't far from 100%. But before that the old Browning long recoil system, as in A5, was there as well. If there is a pump shotgun the equal or better than those two I'll be surprised to know.
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
Sometimes though not always, the workaday pump has a larger mag capacity than autos. They are more reliable and can quickly shuck a round that doesn't fire. Pumps in experienced hands give little if any ground to autos for rate of fire if hitting targets is considered important.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
....don't believe it. Nope, none, nary a one..and hand cranking a fresh round is short work. Hate to disagree there DD...normally you seem to have good sense.
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
its said: "The NCOs are the SAS. Officers come and go but the NCOs provide the continuity."
FLASH, just like in just about any other branch. In the Naval services (where you know, I have actual experience), Chief Petty Officers ARE (or were the backbone). Commissioned Officers do generally stay for a much shorter period in order to get their "ticket punched" and move onto other areas in order to enhance their Fitness Reports. But how would you know this..... But do continue regaling us with your google search prowess...And here's another clue for you, the "O" in NCO stands for "Officer", meaning the raid COULD have been lead by either an NCO or a full Zero.
PS: remember this, when flying, if you push the stick forward the houses get bigger, pull the stick back and they get smaller At least for a time, depending on your thrust to weight ratio. Get back to us on the value of this profundity...
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A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
....don't believe it. Nope, none, nary a one..and hand cranking a fresh round is short work. Hate to disagree there DD...normally you seem to have good sense.
I have a full life's perspective garnered from use of many models of both styles. There be junk in both aisles to be sure, but given equal quality the pump is preferred. There were more than a few grunt point men in 'Nam that carried a Win. Mod 12 in preference to all other options when cruising the jungle hills and mountains.
To follow up on Jorge's thoughts a little, NCO's carve their rank with sweat and diligence. Only takes the signature of the branch secretary to make a W/O. It takes an act of Congress to make an officer.
Last edited by DigitalDan; 09/18/19.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
