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H&R buffalo classic #14132689 09/17/19
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What would this rifle in a carbine, 45 colt be worth? Saw one in a pawn shop this morning for 399.00 it looks like new. Are these good shooters?

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Thats not out of line too far. Have heard good things. Offer them 300 and see what happens

Re: H&R buffalo classic [Re: limabean] #14134507 09/18/19
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I dont recall that option. It maybe made up gun. The Buffalo version was a a heavy gun for 45/70 not 45 colt. In a made up carbine, it could be quite nice. H&R had a reputation for surprising people for how well they shot given the low initial expectations. My friend has a 243 that got loose. That is a high pressure round. Keep in mind these guns were low price. I like both the rifle and shotgun line. I am not trying to damn with faint praise here. I only mean you will not see the guarantee consistency as you might from miruko. And back in my day, i could drive to the factory and walk in the door, no security guard. Liked the guns and the company. That is gone now. Anyway, they shot fine. Simple, reliable and fun guns to shoot. Most could be got in a light weight setup. My friends 243 was a youth gun with an adult stock swap. The Buffalo gun was more an exception to the light weight guns we wanted around here. In 45 LC , hmmm, odd.

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Re: H&R buffalo classic [Re: limabean] #14134525 09/18/19
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If I recall the Buffalo Classic is the 45/70 and the Classic Carbine is the 45 LC.

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I like the sound of that. H&R made a nice little 44mag. Maybe this is more along those lines with an up scale stock. I would go for that.

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Don't know the market value, but it's not a lot of money for something you really want. Better to pay a bit more than lose a really nice one. I recently jumped on a opprtunity for something I'd been wanting for years.

The .45/70 Buffalo Classic is pretty well thought of. Buffalo Arms used to sell those while they lasted.


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I have yet to see an H&R 45/70 that wasn't a great shooter. We have three in the family. All of them will touch 3 shots at 100 yards with 50.0 gr RL7 under a Remington 300 gr hp. Recoil is stiff, pushing a tad over 2000 fps over my chrony.

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Originally Posted by limabean
What would this rifle in a carbine, 45 colt be worth? Saw one in a pawn shop this morning for 399.00 it looks like new. Are these good shooters?

Thanks


That is the going rate for that rifle if it is in nice shape.

The .45 Colt chambered Buff Classics were only.made for a few years. I.belive they had 22" barrels? They were made for they 100 yard "Long range" side matches at many SASS events.

Is Alabama one of those states that allows straight walled single shot cartridge rifles for "Primitive " Deer seasons?

Re: H&R buffalo classic [Re: limabean] #14135439 09/18/19
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I had a 45/70 it was very accurate . and I took several nice bucks with it..I sold it because I had too many rifles cant use them all..


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Had a heavy barrel NEF in 223 for years. Pretty damn accurate, pretty damn fugly. That thing would shoot bulk Federal 55gr FMJ into a half inch at 100, accounted for quite a few woodchucks over the years. Still have an NEF in 22 Hornet. That one came with a 20ga barrel and a carrying case. .

Friend won a single shot Henry 45-70 at last spring's FNRA banquet. Recall it had some brass trim on it? He said it shoots well, but is a tad hard on his old shoulder.


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Re: H&R buffalo classic [Re: limabean] #14135732 09/18/19
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Well I wouldn't say I have wanted one and been looking for a while but thought it was a cool little rifle. I'm what y'all call a rifle Looney I guess and I am allways looking for something different. Some I keep and some get shot some and moved on down the road. I was asking more or less to see how much it was worth in case I wanted to sell it after I played with it. Thanks for the replies so far.

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I've seen more that would shoot,than ones that wouldn't.I have a 26" barreled .280 that will be in my safe till I die...

Re: H&R buffalo classic [Re: limabean] #14144944 09/22/19
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Is the H & R Action as Strong as a Ruger No1?

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Originally Posted by x1proto1
Is the H & R Action as Strong as a Ruger No1?


No. The #1 is one of the strongest actions ever made.

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Originally Posted by x1proto1
Is the H & R Action as Strong as a Ruger No1?


No but you can load it to the Marlin 1895 specs which are still pretty stout.

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Originally Posted by jk16
Originally Posted by limabean
What would this rifle in a carbine, 45 colt be worth? Saw one in a pawn shop this morning for 399.00 it looks like new. Are these good shooters?

Thanks


That is the going rate for that rifle if it is in nice shape.

The .45 Colt chambered Buff Classics were only.made for a few years. I.belive they had 22" barrels? They were made for they 100 yard "Long range" side matches at many SASS events.


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I had an H&R 155 Shikari in 45-70 with a 28" barrel years ago. That one couldn't be loaded up much so I didn't bother handloading for it.
Because of that, I sold it. It had a brass trigger guard and barrel band, very nice. I thought they all came that way. I was wrong.
I really regret selling it but I had a great supply of once fired brass when I bought a Ruger #1.

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That old .45-70 used the low pressure receiver. The Buffalo Classic uses the high pressure frame. As stated above, it is weaker than a Ruger #1 and is limited to Marlin lever gun pressures.

Re: H&R buffalo classic [Re: limabean] #14149103 09/23/19
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Buffalo Classic = 45-70
Classic Carbine = 45 Colt

Both had SB2 rifle receivers, case coloring, and similar stock sets. The Buffalo Classic had a 32" bbl, the Classic Carbine had a 20" bbl.

I've owned a number of both and the limiting factory for pressures is your shoulder, not the receiver.

$399 is a decent price. If you don't buy it please post where I can buy it.

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Originally Posted by 4570fan
If I recall the Buffalo Classic is the 45/70 and the Classic Carbine is the 45 LC.


The buffalo Classic 45-70 had a LONG barrel. I would need to measure mine but I was thinking 28-30 inches. The Buffalo Classic in 38-55 had a slightly shorter barrel. My BC in 45-70 shoots FANTASTIC with 300 grain bullets. With 405's it will rattle the fillings out of your teeth. I haven't drug that 45-70 out in probably 10 years so maybe I need to list it for sale and see if there is any interest.

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