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Was just over on GunBroker and pulled up bolt actions rifles in .358 Winchester. Other than a couple of rare Winchester Model 70s and a few Rugers there were none...

I know that there have only been a few production .358s but to have so few on the market...and I know several people who have made up custom rifles..

Is it just that it is such a great round no ones ever sells them, or when they go to sell them local buyers are standing in line...

I've had a couple and still have a Ruger Frontier in stainless that was taken out of the Kiddie stock and put in a standard Ruger synthetic stock...it is a great up close deer/hog/bear gun...

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I think that you're right about the pre-'64 Winchester 70 and Ruger 77 being the only cataloged bolt action 358s.

No pump guns, no semi-autos, and no single shots.

Browning BLRs, Savage 99s, and Winchester 88 lever actions in 358.

Marlin 336ER and Winchester 94 Big-Bore in 356.

If the 356 and 358 were great cartridges, more people would have recognized their greatness and there would have been more demand for rifles chambered for those cartridges.

I have 1 358 Ruger 77 and 1 356 Marlin 336SC that was rechambered from 35 REM. The Ruger is NIB and although I shot a couple of whitetails with the 356 back in 2003 and 2004, I don't think that it has been out of the house since I came home and cleaned/oiled it.

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No .35 caliber cartridge has ever gained great popularity in this country. A caliber that large simply isn't needed for most of what gets hunted here.

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260Remguy, Mannlicher Schoenauer was chambered in the .358 Win, at least the MCA carbine was.


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There were a few A-Bolts sold thru Grice in PA a few years ago.

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I had one years back. I genuinely don’t think it does anything the 308 does except kick more.


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Great round. Bang, flop.

I have a custom bolt gun in the caliber, and a Savage M99 Brush Gun. The Savage is for sale and in the classifieds here if anyone is interested.

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Creedmore and Grendel are the current favorites, though a great cartridge the .358 sadly never caught on. I have owned pre'64 M/70 and Ruger 77 rifle chambered for .358. My current .35 is a Whelen rebore of a pre'64 Super Grade M/70, it is my go to deer rifle and probably the last one I'd ever sell.

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Yeah, I don’t know how many 356/358 rifles I’ve had over the years. All were hellacious killers, and I love 35s. I just have no good justification for them over other stuff, no matter how hard I try. Anecdotally, I’ve thought they did some things better, but there’s no proof on the stuff I’ve shot with them. If I hunted more elk, moose, and bear, and always inside 300, I could argue a bit more....but all I ever got to pull the trigger on with those was deer and hogs....was almost magnumitis at times. 357 max does as much as I need with a 35 most days.

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A .358 is only a re-bore away, if you simply must have one. That market niche remains tiny, has been for several generations, but someone will try again, no doubt. The little .35 Remington soldiers on in it's own niche, doing most of the work folks think they need a .358 for.


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I have had a BLR, a rare pre-64 M70 and a M77. All are gone. I have had this pre-64 M70 for a number of years. One of my boys will get it some day.

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I have a M.70 XTR Featherweight that I rebarreled with a #3 profile to .358 and it is not a featherweight anymore but, it is a shooter. I could be talked into selling it as I don't think I've hunted with it in 15 years. wink


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Nice wart hog Ed! What was your load?


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I had one years back. I genuinely don’t think it does anything the 308 does except kick more.

Makes sense. I couldn't tell that the.35 Rem. did a damn thing the .30-30 didn't do just as well.

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I got 2, BLR and a ruger American, I’ll probably never trip either one


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I had one years back. I genuinely don’t think it does anything the 308 does except kick more.

Makes sense. I couldn't tell that the.35 Rem. did a damn thing the .30-30 didn't do just as well.


I agree. the 30-30 seems to do as well on deer.

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I've thought about getting one., It just seems to be a misfit. I think the 35 whelen is higher on my priority list.

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The .358 Win is one of my favorites. I am fortunate to own three. A Ruger 77 Hawkeye All-Weather, a Savage 99F and a 7600 Remington that I had Nathan at Hillbilly Custom Rifles make up for me. Great medicine for anything in the Northeast.

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Looks like the Ruger American 358's are dried up. I wish I'd have bought one of those.


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