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The 9mm has been the most popular pistol cartridge on earth for quite some time i have plenty of good to say about it and i dont know if i can think of any thing negative to say about the 9mm and its what i choose to defend my self with out on the streets.
broken bones broken heart stripped down an torn apart a lil rust but Im still runnin countin miles countin tears twisted roads and shiftin gears year after year its all or nothin Im not home and Im not lost just holdin on 2 what I got...God and Guns
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Hard to believe an antique cartridge invented in 1902 is the number one defense cartridge today, over 117 years later. 😜
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
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Hard to believe an antique cartridge invented in 1902 is the number one defense cartridge today, over 117 years later. 😜 About the only thing that is really the same would be the dimensions, bullets powders and guns have improved quite a bit in the interval.
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Hard to believe an antique cartridge invented in 1902 is the number one defense cartridge today, over 117 years later. 😜 About the only thing that is really the same would be the dimensions, bullets powders and guns have improved quite a bit in the interval. Yep. And bullet technology has advanced exponentially!
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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Re: Is it really a 9mm World out there?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - YES it really is! I Just purchased a new SIG P-210 Target 9MM Pistol. <> https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p210-target.html <>
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Hard to believe an antique cartridge invented in 1902 is the number one defense cartridge today, over 117 years later. 😜 About the only thing that is really the same would be the dimensions, bullets powders and guns have improved quite a bit in the interval. That's true for all calibers, including .32 Winchester Special, .30-30, .45-70, 7mm Mauser, etc..
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Those aren't as good as the old ones. Hah, just kidding! Sweet!
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Hard to believe an antique cartridge invented in 1902 is the number one defense cartridge today, over 117 years later. 😜 About the only thing that is really the same would be the dimensions, bullets powders and guns have improved quite a bit in the interval. That's true for all calibers, including .32 Winchester Special, .30-30, .45-70, 7mm Mauser, etc.. True, difference being rifles have benefited from smaller bores, higher velocity, flatter trajectory, and that benefit has not yet been deemed relevant for handguns.
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Thanks to all of the fine gentlemens that have taken their important time to educate us on the fine points of the 9MM world that is certainly blooming and booming and effervescently bubbling to an ever increasingly fevered pitch among the wondering audience that walks the halls of the hallowed halls of the shooting world. Many folks just want to be “Euro”!  Fads come and go! memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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I have a few handguns of different calibers, like them all, but the 9mm is my favorite "keeper", if I had to go to one only.
Reason for me is simply that I can keep the 9mm on target easier and fire follow-up shots quicker than my other calibers, which are larger.
(I'm just more effective with it)
The 9mm is "not too big", "not too small", it's "just right". (for me)
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That’s called being in the Goldilocks Zone.
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That’s called being in the Goldilocks Zone. So True!! :-)
“Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.”
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If you like your 40 (love mine STI VIP) and don't want to take a hit on trading, but want the lower recoil etc profile of the 9mm, look into Underwoods, and Liberty Civil Defense high velocity substitutes.
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I thought that I wanted a 9mm and I still might for paper punching, but yesterday I got to looking at some lighter recoiling .45 ACP factory ammo choices and I think that I'll order some of the 185 grain Winchester hard ball stuff. Full bore 230's have more snap than I'd like out of an alloy frame .45 Auto and the comments on those 185's all mention lighter recoil.
My other auto is a .45
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My little XDS weighs approximately 22 ounces. Not at all unpleasant with 230’s.....until you get beyond about 70 or 80 rounds in a single range session! Then that somewhat aggressive grip pattern, will start to get your attention! memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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Last week I was ogling the SIG 320 (M17) and the little Glock 48, which is the first Glock that felt good in my hands, but when all was said and done, I came home with a Ruger 1911 Target model in .45. I've got all the dies, etc. to load everything from .38 Special, 9mm, .38 Super, 10mm, .41 Mag, .44 Spl, .44 Mag, .45 Colt, etc, but the .45 ACP has been my favorite since I bought my first Colt Lwt. Commander 40 years ago. It wasn't broken, so I didn't fix it.
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Me neither, Gunner; though I would consider a 9mm* as a pocket gun, in lieu of a J frame. *38 Short Colt Rimless Express 
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Me neither, Gunner; though I would consider a 9mm* as a pocket gun, in lieu of a J frame. *38 Short Colt Rimless Express LOL, yes Sarge, it's a 9mm world to Wife, but I carry some heavy backup for her too.  I do like her little P365, it's a little fist full of leave me the hell be! ; ]
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Me neither, Gunner; though I would consider a 9mm* as a pocket gun, in lieu of a J frame. *38 Short Colt Rimless Express LOL, yes Sarge, it's a 9mm world to Wife, but I carry some heavy backup for her too. I do like her little P365, it's a little fist full of leave me the hell be! ; ] I handled my first P365 a few weeks ago and was impressed by how small it was. It think it's still a tad big for pocket carry, but it is smaller than a pair of J frames.
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Direct Impingement is the Fart Joke of military rifle operating systems. ⓒ
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