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Here are some of the latest loads I've developed this year: Iron Man(12ga 3" 2.25oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/LV3OHL2.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/fXwcETp.jpg) The Hulk(12ga 3" 2oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/HbNQ4w7.jpg) The Hammer(12ga 3" 1-3/4oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/x6hPgrV.jpg)
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Crush(12ga 2-3/4" 1-3/8oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/EtlT4FJ.jpg) Black Widow(20ga 3" 1-5/8oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/H7VFlyg.jpg) The Hornet(20ga 3" 1-5/8oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/HHqygtq.jpg) Wolverine(20ga 3" 1-5/8oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/HpEtDhy.jpg)
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Point being? What do you plan to shred with those? Velocities?
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Wolverine(20ga 3" 1-5/8oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/PuipRKy.jpg) Lil Hammer 2.0(20ga 3" 1-5/8oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/aSm8ye9.jpg) Lil Hammer 2.0: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/kvziOcJ.jpg) Storm(20ga 2-3/4" 1-1/2oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/ApQx2LO.jpg)
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Wasp(20ga 2-3/4" 1-3/8oz): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/DSBnSoY.jpg) Ghost Rider(410 3" 375grain): ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/0ZRtBJm.jpg)
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Point being? What do plan to shred with those? Velocities? The Point? A hobby/passion. What do I plan to shred? Tom turkey noggins Although this 1-1/2oz 12ga Buckshot load at 1300fps is going to be mean for larger critters: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/hppvl5v.jpg) MVs of the above loads are as follows: 12ga: Iron Man: 1150fps The Hulk: 1150fps The Hammer: 1200fps Crush: 1200fps 20ga: Black Widow: 1100fps Wasp: 1200fps Storm: 1230fps Lil Hammer 2.0 1150fps Hornet: 1200fps Wolverine: 1200fps 410ga: Ghost Rider: 1165fps
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I can attest to the fact that the 20 ga loads will flat work on a turkey's head. I don't see ever having to pick up my 12 ga again.
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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I can attest to the fact that the 20 ga loads will flat work on a turkey's head. I don't see ever having to pick up my 12 ga again. Agreed! My 12s collect dust these days.
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I'll be interested in some of those 20 ga loads, though I am not turkey hunter (yet). I want to see what can be done with very light loads for upland game. For example, #11s are 870 pellets/oz, so a half-oz (435) EXCEEDS the pellet count of a full ounce of lead 8s (403) ... what I used for quail for all but the end of the season prior to the Cali lead ban. And the 11's are more lethal. I could go down to 1/3-oz of 11s and get all the pellets I need. But who the heck has THAT load data, even for a .410! Just one look at your patterns makes it clear that, um, maybe you don't need ALL those pellets for Mr. Tom, although on a turkey hunt where shooting is limited, WTH. On an upland hunt, one would expect more shooting. We'll be talking sir ... 
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Be careful on the bird loads, I can tell you that I missed a #9 shot when cleaning a turkey and about broke a tooth. My daughter found one as well with about the same results.
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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That Storm and Hornet looks bad nasty out of a 20. Will turn OLE TOMMY HEAD sideways in a hurry.
If it ain't broke don't fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
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I’ve got to quit looking at these pictures. I’ve been more than satisfied with the lil hammer load and killled a couple birds farther than I should have in fields. Your gonna make me spend more money on components to try a few of these
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Notice the teddy bear shape in the left center of the pattern, cool looking.
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Holy crap those are good patterns!! What’s the load detail? Wad, powder, ext
It�s a magazine not a clip......
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Damn. That stuff is impressive.
I did the math, the shots fired for those patterns cost $387.45
Is there any talk of supply being increased with commesurate price drop in TSS? The stuff is pricey.
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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That ghost load is something else. With the 20" like that you could shoot a .410 with just bead.
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Be careful on the bird loads, I can tell you that I missed a #9 shot when cleaning a turkey and about broke a tooth. My daughter found one as well with about the same results. I was thinking what those very small, very hard projectiles would do to one's tooth... DF
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Be careful on the bird loads, I can tell you that I missed a #9 shot when cleaning a turkey and about broke a tooth. My daughter found one as well with about the same results. I was thinking what those very small, very hard projectiles would do to one's tooth... DF Exactly.
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Be careful on the bird loads, I can tell you that I missed a #9 shot when cleaning a turkey and about broke a tooth. My daughter found one as well with about the same results. I was thinking what those very small, very hard projectiles would do to one's tooth... DF Exactly. Discussed on another thread, point was made about steel shot. But it’s bigger and may be easier to spot. Same exposure to an unsuspecting tooth. DF
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I shoot one of his loads, the Lil Hammer. It is responsible for 28 long beards in the past 6 years, from my 20ga.
Nice work Ronny, and NO I AM NOT GOING TO CHANGE LOADS...………...
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