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I use the Barnes 120 TTSX in the four I load for. They sure hammer 200 lb plus pigs. Our deer don’t weigh much over 150 lbs., kills them well.
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The 129 ABLR has performed great on game in the 6.5 CM for me. This is another bullet I have not tried in the 6.5 Creedmoor but definitely want to. I’ve used the 6.5x284 for three decades and used the .260 Rem for about 8 years and now the 6.5 Creedmoor for about a year and a half with my own rifle and about 6 months with my daughter’s rifle. This experience has taught me to firmly believe that bullets in the 130gr class work best on deer to average deer ranges at Creed/.260 velocities. So, out to 400 but much more likely 40 - 250 yards. The 129 ABLR and 129 BXR are two hunting bullets in this weight class that have a G1 BC well in excess of 0.5 so they intrigue me as being possible maximum distance (for me, around 500 yards) deer/Pronghorn/caribou bullets which should give dramatic results at any distance I’m likely to shoot at when started a bit over 2,800 FPS. The 129 SST is in the ballpark, too, albeit a touch under 0.5 BC. Both the 130 Swift Scirroco II and 130gr Sierra Gamechanger exceed 0.5. Just wondering if anyone has experience with these? What about the 135 Berger Hybrid or 129 Lapua Scenar? I already know I’ll shoot either the 142 ABLR, 143 ELD-X or 127 LRX on elk.
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I'm currently tuning up with some Barnes 100 TTSX, 41g IMR4166, 3118fps, Kimber M84 Hunter, 22inch barrel. 5 shot groups staying around an inch at 100yds. (That's about as good as I shoot) Velocity very consistent. Magnetospeed chronograph. Very little copper in the barrel after 30 rounds without cleaning. Mule Deer mentioned that these Enduron powders have a copper cleaning component but I wasn't expecting anything this efficient. No game shot yet. I'm specifically planning for NY Whitetail. Bet it works!
Love the Creed! Like venison too.
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I’ve been using the Whitetail 129 IL load in my Creed on three big blacktails to date and think very highly of the ammo. It shoots about as well as I can, out of my Kimber Hunter - hence, I’ve not reloaded for it yet. I’ve killed two full grown cow elk with that Hornaday 129, as well. Out of a .260 Rem, one shot apiece.
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I have three bullets that shoot really well in my 6.5 CM. The Sierra 130 gr. Tipped Game King, or Gamechanger, whichever they call it now, the Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip, and the Hornady 129 gr. Interlock. The latter is probably gonna be my load for whitetails this Fall. However, I do like the Ballistic Tip, too. Any one of them should work fine for either of us.
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I like the factory Barnes vortx LR. Have had great results with deer amd pigs.
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You are correct. Which is why I note that my experience is limited and my impression is only my own...it just didn't leave a positive impression on me. I still have several boxes of the 143 bullets...perhaps I'll give it another chance this year. I've shot two does with .308 165gr BTs broadside at close range. Both had massive heart-lung damage, both bullets exited. Both deer ran about 100 yards, then flopped. From those incidents, one could decide that the BT wasn't a quick killer. I just think those deer had enough O2 in their blood to carry them to the place where they fell. Saw the same thing from a buck I hit the same way with a 7mm mag. I guess if you want sure-fire bang-flops you need to use John's high shoulder shot, but they don't often give me time for that.
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You are correct. Which is why I note that my experience is limited and my impression is only my own...it just didn't leave a positive impression on me. I still have several boxes of the 143 bullets...perhaps I'll give it another chance this year. I've shot two does with .308 165gr BTs broadside at close range. Both had massive heart-lung damage, both bullets exited. Both deer ran about 100 yards, then flopped. From those incidents, one could decide that the BT wasn't a quick killer. I just think those deer had enough O2 in their blood to carry them to the place where they fell. Saw the same thing from a buck I hit the same way with a 7mm mag. I guess if you want sure-fire bang-flops you need to use John's high shoulder shot, but they don't often give me time for that. I might have shot a deer or two through the lungs.....I say that with a grin.... My concerns with the bullet had nothing to do with lack of a bang flop.
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No doubt. Ain't we all? I'm just not surprised much anymore by anything that happens when I blow a big hole through one of 'em. Now, in addition, I've started sticking them with pointed sticks, which is a whole 'nuther thing.
What I'm really looking for is a bullet (or broadhead) that'll make 'em run towards the parking lot.😛
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No doubt. Ain't we all? I'm just not surprised much anymore by anything that happens when I blow a big hole through one of 'em. Now, in addition, I've started sticking them with pointed sticks, which is a whole 'nuther thing.
What I'm really looking for is a bullet (or broadhead) that'll make 'em run towards the parking lot.😛 I’ve hit some with pointed sticks that didn’t go 20 feet, some went a damn good way.
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I'm not sure I'd use the Creedless on deer. They are so weak, the bullet has to stop halfway and hitch a ride on a bird to get to the target.
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No experience yet with the 6.5 CM, but my 260 launching 130’s smacks deer with authority
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Since the mid 1960's I have been using the Sierra 120gr 6.5 in my various 6.5's . Mature muley bucks, some well over 200lbs. . Never had an issue... If you like heavier bullets nothing wrong with that. If you want a light tough bullet with light recoil that will absolutely work ,, Barnes 100gr TTSX & or Nosler 100gr partition.. They kill as well as the heavies with super light recoil...
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I also like the 120 bt and the 125 pt both nosler
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The 125 Nosler Partition should be great. I use them in 264 Win mags.
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There’s something about that Hornady American whitetail load.....of all the factory stuff I’ve tried, and my few handload work ups, I can’t beat it in my stock B14....1/2”@ 200. It’s given good expansion and exits on deer at various shallow angles to 364 yards. I WANT to shoot other bullets and loads, but that stinking cheap Hornady has my # in that rifle. Seems it likes others, too, and is tough enough for far bigger stuff than I’ve put them into.
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There’s something about that Hornady American whitetail load.....of all the factory stuff I’ve tried, and my few handload work ups, I can’t beat it in my stock B14....1/2”@ 200. It’s given good expansion and exits on deer at various shallow angles to 364 yards. I WANT to shoot other bullets and loads, but that stinking cheap Hornady has my # in that rifle. Seems it likes others, too, and is tough enough for far bigger stuff than I’ve put them into. That 129 grain Hornady Interlock is one heck of a hunting bullet.
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I've really liked the performance of the 130 Gr Nos AB in my 6.5x47 Lapua...I don't see it being any different in the CM
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There’s something about that Hornady American whitetail load.....of all the factory stuff I’ve tried, and my few handload work ups, I can’t beat it in my stock B14....1/2”@ 200. It’s given good expansion and exits on deer at various shallow angles to 364 yards. I WANT to shoot other bullets and loads, but that stinking cheap Hornady has my # in that rifle. Seems it likes others, too, and is tough enough for far bigger stuff than I’ve put them into. I bought a box of this ammo and it has produced the smallest group in my 6.5CM so far. Four shots into 0.4 inch at 100m. My best handloads have been with the same Hornady 129gn bullet sat to the same depth as the Hornady factory ammo. I've always liked the Hornady flat base Interlocks.
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There’s something about that Hornady American whitetail load.....of all the factory stuff I’ve tried, and my few handload work ups, I can’t beat it in my stock B14....1/2”@ 200. It’s given good expansion and exits on deer at various shallow angles to 364 yards. I WANT to shoot other bullets and loads, but that stinking cheap Hornady has my # in that rifle. Seems it likes others, too, and is tough enough for far bigger stuff than I’ve put them into. I bought a box of this ammo and it has produced the smallest group in my 6.5CM so far. Four shots into 0.4 inch at 100m. My best handloads have been with the same Hornady 129gn bullet sat to the same depth as the Hornady factory ammo. I've always liked the Hornady flat base Interlocks. I’ve a mind to try a ‘campfire challenge’ with some 10-shot strings and that combo, just to see. Even though it’s a hunting rifle, not a bench gun, there’s some serious potential there, when it goes that small for me just set up to hunt.
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