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God did create evil as well as everything that has been created. As far as sitting back. Take a look at some of the kings. You see God sending an evil spirt a few times to hassle things.

I'll see your KJV an raise you a AMP: "The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing peace and creating disaster; I am the Lord who does all these things."

Come down to how you translate the Hebrew word ra and in this context the great majority of scholars go with natural disasters, not moral evil.

Not scripture, but help me, I understand God is love, all things good. Evil is the opposite of good. I know God created all, but just how could evil be created by good? Scratching my head on that.

With a little thought, say if evil is a total lack of good, then it might make some sense.

Here's some more dumb stuff for you to read:

Decree of the Council of Toulouse (1229 C.E.): “We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books.”

Ruling of the Council of Tarragona of 1234 C.E.: “No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned...”

Proclamations at the Ecumenical Council of Constance in 1415 C.E.: Oxford professor, and theologian John Wycliffe, was the first (1380 C.E.) to translate the New Testament into English to “...helpeth Christian men to study the Gospel in that tongue in which they know best Christ’s sentence.” For this “heresy” Wycliffe was posthumously condemned by Arundel, the archbishop of Canterbury. By the Council’s decree “Wycliffe’s bones were exhumed and publicly burned and the ashes were thrown into the Swift River.”

wabigoon, God was very confused that day.

Metaphysically if God had a purpose in creating good, a fair assumption, God creating evil which opposes good makes no sense. He would be defeating his own purpose.

That's why in choosing how to translate ancient texts where words often have imprecise meaning depending on context you look for internal consistency and to logic, does it make sense. You even see that in translating "Caesar's Gallic Wars" in Latin class and Caesar was an exceptionally clear writer.

He created Lucifer as well. Do you believe God did not know Lucifer would become Satan and take 1/3 of the angles with him, to Hell? Do you believe God knows all that will happen? Every single thing? I do. Jesus told us God knows every hair on our heads. That wouldn't be a big trick with me, but every hair on every head that ever lived is a pretty good trick. But it's no trick. That is Omniscience. God is the only Omniscient Being there is. Omniscient means knowing everything. That's a lot!

He has a plan, and that plan fairly obviously requires the presence of evil for the time being. When there is no more time there will likely be no more evil, and God's plan will result in the perfection only an Omniscient God could achieve.

God didn't create Lucifer as evil, that was Lucifer's choice. God gave him the ability to choose as he did for us. Sure he knew what Lucifer would do, He let Lucifer have what Lucifer wanted even though it was against Him. Pretty cool dude if you ask me. You want it, you got it. Toyota. Choose wisely.

You dare to hold something other than the KJV up against it?!

Yep and that’s one thing upon which all of historic Christianity agrees; God is NOT in ANY way the author of evil.

He uses it to bring Himself glory yes, but He did NOT create it.

Neither do the great majority of the "scholars" believe in God.

ra': adversity
Original Word: רַע
Part of Speech: Adjective; noun masculine; noun feminine
Transliteration: ra'
Phonetic Spelling: (rah)
Definition: bad, evil
Brown-Driver-Briggs
I. רַע226 adjective bad, evil

Who did?

Isn't it said of Jesus in John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. The interlinear does not include "things" That's filler for understanding. So what it says and means is that Jesus created ALL. Everything. Even evil.

Otherwise, tell me who created evil and how that would not make Jesus a liar, which of course He is clearly not.

How did Lucifer come to be? Did God not know what he would become? Obviously, God did. Otherwise, He would not be truly Omniscient, but He is.

God had to create evil in exactly the way and pattern to support His plan. God is in control and will always be.

That's only half the story.
The Council of Toulouse did ban the possession of vernacular Bibles for the laity without a license; not because the Church wished to discourage the people from reading Scripture, but because mistranslations of the Bible were used as a tools for the promotion of the Albigensian heresy. For these reasons, some very poor and incorrectly translated bibles were burned. Both of these councils were provincial councils, assembled for the purpose of addressing local heresies. Think of it this way, how would you like it if someone distributed New World Translation bibles at your church?

One thing that most people seem to forget is that the Bible is the Catholic Church's. Created by the Catholic Church, translated by the Catholic Church, published and distributed by the Catholic Church.
Think of how an author would act if someone rewrote his book, claimed it was written by the original author and then distributed it. Think they'd get sued? Think they'd get a court order that every unauthorized copy be confiscated and destroyed? Of course.

John Wycliffe was a heretic who published his own corrupted translation to support his heresies. His heresies were similar to that of the Lollard's and local councils pointed out 45 of his teachings as being erroneous, notoriously heretical, blasphemous, seditious and some just offensive to pious ears.

Ah, local councils - that should settle it once and for all.

You are willingly misled.

No, the word is 'evil' - which happens to relate to other verses that say essentially the same thing; that God (assuming existence) is responsible for both good and evil. That God made all things, including evil.


As for the translation of the word 'evil' into 'disaster;


Quote:
''Understandably, the New International Version translators saw fit to alter the prophet’s words by rendering the offensive Hebrew word רָע (rah) as “disaster” instead of correctly translating it as “bad” or “evil.” The New International Version Bible therefore mistranslates Isaiah 45:7 to read:

“I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things.”

The word “disaster” inserted by the New International Version is misleading and purposely ambiguous so that the uninformed reader could conclude that this word refers to natural disasters, such as typhoons, earthquakes and hurricanes. This dubious translation was deliberately forged to conceal the prophet’s original message. As mentioned above, the King James Version correctly translates this verse, and renders the Hebrew word רָע (rah) as “evil.”

if we could just somehow find a cost effective, and efficient way of weeding out the heresies.

the heresies have plagued us for so long, that it's looking like time to have a catharsis?

I'm sorry but I did respond to the wrong post. Please disregard my above post.