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Just spent the WE on the Big Susitna nothing but wet wood mostly wet Cottonwood. Took along a bag of instalight briquets used them to dry the wet wood and produce heat. Found some coal to keep the fire going. The Big Susitna changes levels on a daily basis in the summer all the wood is wet and not much Spruce. Rootballs had a little dry wood near the top.

A good trick to know is take a empty beer or pop can and fill it half way with gas. Lay it on its side with lid opening facing up then stack your wet wood TP fashion.

Light it, will burn for about 20 minutes drying your wet wood, can acts like a stove. Usually wood will dry enough to produce some heat.

May save your life in a remote coastal location, wet wood no heat can usually find a beer can and a washed up kicker can of fuel. Also great for starting a burn pile, and a lot safer than trying fuel of a fire!

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I carry a bic lighter(several), and wetfire tinder. And a ferro rod. And a JetBoil.

A small flare would be handy. Used to carry a big one, but they are too much for backpacking.

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Dryer lint in wax, cotton balls with vaseline and a lightening strike starter by a guy named Darrell Holland.


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Every Fishing lodge I have been to in Canada, the Fishing Guides use a Propane torch when it’s raining and wet for shore lunch.
If I was backpacking I would just use my canister backpacking micro stove, as it’s much smaller and lighter.

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Originally Posted by jpb
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They gotta have road flares in Sweden.

KC

Yep we do -- I've got three full-sized flares in my car.

However, I've not found any flares small enough that I'd consider them for backpacking -- still looking though! smile

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Jpb don’t you have a lot of white birch trees there? The bark burns like gasoline.

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Originally Posted by jpb
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They gotta have road flares in Sweden.

KC

Yep we do -- I've got three full-sized flares in my car.

However, I've not found any flares small enough that I'd consider them for backpacking -- still looking though! smile

John

Cut to the length you want and seal in wax.


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Simple Boy Scout stuff here....

best suggestions... Dryer lint in zip lock, with wax soaked if you can think ahead.

Cotton balls in Vasoline or soaked in wax, zip lock bag...

for the no mess around stuff camping in wet winter time Oregon, we have always used the road flare method..
but I introduced the troop, to Red Dye Diesel in a Windex Spray bottle or something of that sort..
for myself I purchased a Zepco Commercial Spray bottle for like $3.00 many moons ago....half to 3/4 of roll of toilet paper soaked in diesel and then let it dry... brought along in an old metal coffee can or #10 can from fruit, vegetables etc...with it ventilated a bit..
say like with a 22 etc...

dry kindling is never a bag idea either....a lighter is fine, but you can also spark a 9 Volt battery...

look up a Scout Merit Badge book which you can read on line for the Wilderness Survival Merit Badge...

its easy enough to print out the parts you may need for reference.. or you can get one new for about $5.00, with a lot of good tips like that in there...

Red Cross offers a course in this stuff for like $450.00, which essentially uses that Merit Badge Book and Wilderness First Aid..

They can be referenced at USScouts.com


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“half to 3/4 of roll of toilet paper soaked in diesel and then let it dry... brought along in an old metal coffee can or #10 can from fruit, vegetables etc...with it ventilated a bit.."

Look up hobo stove. Same thing. Just a giant wick.


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Trioxane tabs and storm proof matches

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Highway flare is the best- saved my bacon a few times. What I carry mostly now is 2 or 3 Bic lighters and a ziplock back full of airplane innertube cut into triangles with sharp point on at least one end so they are easy to light. A 3" piece will burn 5 minutes.


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My secret weapon is Purel hand sanitizer. I use a wood stove and that stuff is like napalm. I also use the fire sticks but the purel lights everything up. and it is also useful for sanitary purposes.

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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Trioxane tabs and storm proof matches

dear god YES!!!! I hear some of the crap mentioned in this thread. its clear many people haven't used these. They weigh nothing, the milsurp ones I use come in a wrapper that looks about like a condom wrapper. but are lighter and a bit smaller. They used to sell them in 3 pack boxes for .99 each. but now I think they want 3 bucks a piece for a box. still a great deal. I keep them in my truck. since I don't want to dink around its my go to.

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I always have a bic or Clipper lighter in my pocket. I carry a ferro rod and some cotton balls with a dab of vaseline inside; in my pack.

I carry the cotton balls in a small 2oz wide mouth Nagene container (no mess)

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Originally Posted by kk alaska


A good trick to know is take a empty beer or pop can and fill it half way with gas. Lay it on its side with lid opening facing up then stack your wet wood TP fashion.

Light it, will burn for about 20 minutes drying your wet wood, can acts like a stove. Usually wood will dry enough to produce some heat.

May save your life in a remote coastal location, wet wood no heat can usually find a beer can and a washed up kicker can of fuel. Also great for starting a burn pile, and a lot safer than trying fuel of a fire!


I wish I had known this trick when I was guiding near there. I almost used up all the boats gas tank starting fires in the rain a couple of times. It would also have saved a lot of singed arm hair too. This trick has worked even on a wet beach with wet fuel.


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Love Trioxane, havne't replenished.

The outfitter I hunted with in WY this fall had a gallon ziplock about 1/2 full of sawdust mixed w/diesel. They buy the big bags of pine-shavings used for chicken bedding, dump that in a large barrel then mix in the diesel. It lights, burns for a long time, is cheap, doesn't weigh much, and is easy to have a large supply of.

Bought a tin of "Pyro-Putty" and it works pretty well, I don't think it's as hot as Trioxane. We had a few dead-dried pine branches w/orange needles on them that once put over the pyro-putty, started a fire darned quick.

I carry a windproof lighter and will use that to start Trioxane or the Pyro-putty.

In a pinch, I do carry one of these for actually getting a fire started as well just in case my lighter doesn't work for some reason:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L5YLS3T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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+1 for trioxane. I pick them up from army surplus dealers at gun shows. I believe they were used for a little ration stove. They burn hot and for a good amount of time. Long enough to get some less than ideal tinder going.

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