Re: Mary's intercession - I guarantee you, the same people who question asking for the Virgin Mary's intercession, have no problem asking any random person to pray for them.
Sometimes we need all the help we can get.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Re: Mary's intercession - I guarantee you, the same people who question asking for the Virgin Mary's intercession, have no problem asking any random person to pray for them.
LOL...your catholic guarantee?...worthless.
I don't ask anyone be it kook Catholic or random person to pray for me.
Christians grovelling to God to get something they want...hilarious.
hint; ..your God already knows what you need lest you doubt it ,.. Maybe you RC dummies should spare everyone your convoluted spin church bulllcrap and heed the example of Jesus at Gethsemane to know what prayer is about.
Still no catholic here can answer ;
Why would the trio of Jesus , Hoy Spirit and Father need a Mary to intercede?
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
clearly it escapes you that Mary acknowledged she had a personal saviour,, and there is no need for such lest one be a sinner....thus Mary awaits judgement like the rest.
your arcane catholic dogma spin stories are absurd.
Now you're just making stuff up, talk about spin.
Then you either ignore or doubt the words of Mary in Luke 1:47.
If you can find anywhere in Bible that definitively says Mary was born sinless and went to heaven, you should point it out.
not interested in hearing you peddle your (c.1854) Pope Pius IX 'Ineffabilis Deus' snake oil crapola.
Originally Posted by nighthawk
She avoided original sin by the will of God. ..
Mary was fathered by a mere mortal who carried the sin of Adam and passed it on to his daughter.
but trust the Vatican to spin a tale about their poster girl Mary.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
I think we can all agree that areas with large concentrations of Catholics have the best Friday night fish fry's.
The North Louisiana Baptist rednecks I associate with will eat all the fried catfish I can provide. We have supper together every Wednesday night after church and they can put away some fish.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Don't know how it fits in but always got a chuckle out of this. Why it popped into my head during dinner I haven't a clue. [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qev-i9-VKlY [/video
Would you be able (and willing) to post Spiritual Fantasy by Steppenwolf? I don't know how but it would seem appropriate for this discussion.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Sure. Kinda puts me to sleep though. Released 1968, a year Eastern Philosophy was the rage.
Humanity grew weary Of it's doubtful state of mind So it summoned from far and near All the wise men thought to be sincere To heal it's wounds and make it whole And lead the way back to the soul
The charlatans they stayed behind To count their bags of gold And some stayed away as if to say I know that my way's the only way Afraid to learn they may be wrong They preach their nothingness at home
But the wise men came together with the hope to free mankind Of the rubbish that had gathered in god's name To embrace and trust each other in the search for the supreme And they found that all their teachings were the same
And when at last the word went round That all were one and all Many returned to seek the light Nobody claimed that he was right It's sad to know it's just a song To dream and hope still can't be wrong
Repeat chorus
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
I believe it may have set off a wholesale insurrection that required the Roman army to violently put it down.
You believe that, why? As far as I know, I've never read any history that happened. Rome just kept killing Christians with impunity until 313. Nero made candles out of a lot of them. Rome did go in and destroy Jerusalem 70 years later, long after Jesus' death and resurrection, scattering the Jews who survived to hither and yon. There is nothing in the Constitution that makes it a thing to keep religion out of public institutions. The only thing that 1A does is make it so the government cannot create a religion, similar to what England did in creating the Church of England.
We really have not much record of what happened in the space of not many days between Jesus (Yeshua) riding in to the equivalent of a ticker tape parade and then ending up with a crowd demanding his death. The chasing out of the thieving money changers you can be assured left blood on the floor along with their scattered money. The rake off of the common folks money was not something that some popular upstart was going to be allowed to interfere with. The priests had to make him dead quick or things were going to crap with their authority. Something big happened that week the details of which are lost. I don't imagine Pilate reported things getting out of hand to Rome. He handled it and swept it under the rug.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Protestants have the best traditional church music. Catholics have the best wedding receptions. I don't really trust the preachers for either side, though. One tries to steal your wallet while the other one has his hand down your pants.
There are certain folks in particular occupations that I wonder about their motive for choosing that line of work. Priests and preachers especially youth ministers get my scrutiny. Others include law enforcement, psychologists, politicians, and of course men who go into traditional female careers.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
I’ve never understood the concept of confession to a Priest
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.” 1 Timothy 2:5-6 KJV
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I attended a church-sponsored college in the mid-1960's, about the time Viet Nam was going strong. It was amazing how many young men heard the "call to preach" about then- - - - -just before their local draft boards came calling! If they didn't wear a heavy shirt, the yellow stripe down their backs came shining through loud and clear! Jerry
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