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![[Linked Image from s.hdnux.com]](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/06/13/65/18398587/3/920x920.jpg) Hurry up and bring in some firewood boys! Please use caution at stop lights until they get the generators set up. Lights going out in California to defend from fire. Sounds like a real mess. Good Luck!
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and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God? (Micah 6:8) d.v. Musings on TDS
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We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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It's commiefornia so I'm not too sure anyone on here really gives a schitt.
The lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part!
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Goodness there's a lot of traffic in LA!
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It's commiefornia so I'm not too sure anyone on here really gives a schitt. Seriously? There's a lot of great folks and great places in Cali. More bullchit than many prefer but it's not universal.
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I've heard it[several times] on radio news this morning. Due to wild fires or possible....
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California. Isn't that like unloading your gun because it might go off and scare someone?  PG&E Corp. PCG 1.10% has begun to shut off power to hundreds of thousands of people in California as it seeks to prevent its electric lines from sparking more deadly wildfires, in what is believed to be the largest such pre-emptive blackout ever.
The outages are poised to hit areas across the northern and central parts of the state, including the famous wine country region, the rural Sierra Nevada foothills and portions of Oakland and San Jose. The utility is implementing the shut-offs as strong, dry winds are expected to hit the region, increasing the risk that its equipment could start fires.
PG&E said early Wednesday the shut-offs will occur in three phases, the first of which began affecting about 513,000 customers from around midnight local time. These outages will be spread across 22 counties, the utility said, including Napa, Mendocino and Sonoma in the wine country region.
The second phase is set to occur around noon Wednesday, turning off service to approximately 234,000 customers in seven additional counties, PG&E said. These include Alameda, home to Oakland and Berkeley, and Santa Clara, whose largest city is San Jose.
A third phase is being considered for the southernmost portions of PG&E’s service area, affecting approximately 42,000 customers, the company said. Specific locations were still to be determined, it said.
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The bad thing is the power company is calling it a planned outage. That means they take no responsibility for damage done. Better not own an ice cream shop.
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The bad thing is the power company is calling it a planned outage. That means they take no responsibility for damage done. Better not own an ice cream shop. Or have a freezer full of meat. Or need to run your water well to water livestock. Or have a small fire you could put out with your water hose, but can't because they cut the power to your well... Funny thing is, they think that they are SO smart because all the earth's problems is caused by mankind... Too stupid to know that nature will start it's own fire when nature deems it necessary. 
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I'm betting that improper use of generators will cause a lot more fires than the power companies.
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Well, one of the reasons for the fires, is the California government will not let them clear the brush under the power lines or even to clear sections of forests and brush for fire breaks. They wanted everything "natural".
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The reason this is happening is state law makes the utility liable for fire damage even if not proven negligent. Which is why PGE is bankrupt in the first place. Another case of CA showing how they're smarter than everyone else. If utility doesn't turn off the power they are literally betting the company, and they already lost that bet once.
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Ok, if it's for fire safety, someone more informed than myself
answer this. When they have to respond to structure fires, will there
be water in the hydrants. I suppose the answer is, depends.
If my neighbors car catches on fire in the garage, there is no water
available, it's windy as hell, and the whole neighborhood goes up,
fire takes off crosscountry......
Aren't they going to be responsible for everything after the initial event?
Someone mentioned generators, I no several folk who need constant
power for medical devices. Others (myself with c-pap) who need power
at least a few hours a day. If a fire starts because you shut my power off,
And a medically necessary generator started it, aren't you liable?
Equipment failure, accident, storm, probably not.
But here , you just decided to throw the switch.
This WILL test the civil laws.
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The reason this is happening is state law makes the utility liable for fire damage even if not proven negligent. Which is why PGE is bankrupt in the first place. Another case of CA showing how they're smarter than everyone else. If utility doesn't turn off the power they are literally betting the company, and they already lost that bet once. Yeah, but they got permission to pass all those costs on to the rate payer. So really, isn't it in the people's best interest to have the power shut off? Suffer now or pay later? Or maybe suffer and pay right now....I dont know. Crappy situation anyway. Good luck California. You guys sure as schit dont need another Paradise......
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Ok, if it's for fire safety, someone more informed than myself
answer this. When they have to respond to structure fires, will there
be water in the hydrants. I suppose the answer is, depends.
If my neighbors car catches on fire in the garage, there is no water
available, it's windy as hell, and the whole neighborhood goes up,
fire takes off crosscountry......
Aren't they going to be responsible for everything after the initial event? Typically, there would be enough head pressure for fire ops. If not there should be stand by generation capacity in place. At least for us...we dont need power to fight fire....typically we dont have power anyway during a emergency event.
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Yeah, but they got permission to pass all those costs on to the rate payer.
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I don't believe that is the case, they may have been able to pass some costs through but they still took a brutal beating. I'll find a link.
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Ok, if it's for fire safety, someone more informed than myself
answer this. When they have to respond to structure fires, will there
be water in the hydrants. I suppose the answer is, depends.
If my neighbors car catches on fire in the garage, there is no water
available, it's windy as hell, and the whole neighborhood goes up,
fire takes off crosscountry......
Aren't they going to be responsible for everything after the initial event? The water districts have their own generators and will keep water flowing or so they say. Supposed to have our power turned off by noon today because of the high winds/fire hazard. They say the power will be off for 2 days but it will take another 3 days for them to check their system for any issues before it's actually turned back on if that makes sense, bunch of flugging wingnuts.
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