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I am going to go a bit smaller...
My current favorite 6mm is the 6X45. I have an AR with a 20" Black Hole Weaponry barrel on it that is a great coyote or deer gun. I was able to get a very good deal on a bunch (10 boxes) of the now discontinued 80 grain Sierra SSP (single-shot pistol) bullets. They shoot great out of the AR, I am able to get good velocity with them and they perform very well on game. When those are gone, I won't hesitate to use the 90 grain Nosler BTs or the 92 grain Cavity Back MKZs. For the type of hunting that I do (mostly small plot or field corners for meat deer), it is just about the perfect round. Add a suppressor and I can watch the bullet impact through the scope.
I like it so much that I just picked up a Remington SPS Varmint in .223 for cheap with the intention of making it into a lightweight 6X45 repeater that I can throw the suppressor on an put into the hands of my young nephews for deer hunting. Excellent choice. I have owned a few 6mms, but all I have left is one 243 and two 6x45s. The 6x45mm may not be the best choice for plains hunting - but then, neither is a 30-30. Still, for 200 yds in, it is the bee's knees. I have managed two deer and a couple dozen coyotes with this cartridge. It's accurate and easy to handle. It doesn't burn much powder and cases are very cheap. I used Speer 85 gr. BTs, but am going to "go big" and try a 90 gr. Speer.
Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.comGet your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/AP39Jhm.jpg)
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What, no 6mm/.303?
I'm shocked, and a trifle disappointed.😱
What fresh Hell is this?
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I had a few 303 based cartridges, but took pity on the Ackley crowd.  I didn't want to embarrass them. Especially the 6mm/30-30 Ack Imp guys. Although that is a nice cartridge! I like that the 6x45mm is low pressure, inexpensive to load, and has sufficient energy for my needs. It's not a shoulder thumper either. IOW, I used the proper tool for the proper job. Plains or LD shooters might need large containers, but the under 300 yd crowd doesn't. Try to convince them of that though.
Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.comGet your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
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i own a few 243 Win.`s and 6mm-284`s all shoot well , but when it comes to bench rest shooting its tough to beat 6BR . 6 BR`s just shoot well and 6BR`S shoot a long ways out easy too ,with very little recoil.
LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman
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Steve,
I have a Ruger mini 14 at Accuracy Systems becoming a 6x45. I thought it might make a great calling rifle. I've rounded up lots of brass and different bullets. I'll be interested to run a side by side comparison with my 6x222 with all the same bullets.
Mart
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That sounds like a great idea, and lots of fun too!
I've used once fired military brass and factory brass, but the mil brass is definitely the way to go. Completely processed brass that is, so the only thing you have to do is widen the neck.
Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.comGet your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
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I have a lot of military brass, some processed, some not. I did buy 100 rounds of Lapua match just to see how accurate their system is. I have my bench rest brass catcher to save the good stuff. I built it back when I was playing with a 401 Winchester and a 25 Remington. ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-x8Lbrnw/0/986a7e76/L/2013-11-11%2006.05.00-L.jpg)
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I never thought to convert Lapua 223 brass to 6x45mm. It would be interesting to see if there is any difference in accuracy using the 'spensive brass.
Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.comGet your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
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I only bought 100 of them. I thought I'd find a good, accurate load in some factory brass. I have quite a bit of Remington and Winchester as well as the military brass. Then see if there is any noticeable accuracy difference between the Lapua, factory WinRem, and military. The rifle coming back will have a medium heavy 24" barrel and is supposed to shoot sub MOA according to Accuracy Systems claims. For calling I'll use the military brass. I'd be so worried about that expensive Lapua brass hitting the ground, I'd never be able to make any follow up shots.
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Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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I have a 6mm-250 that I REALLY LOVE, but I’ve always wanted a fast-twist 6mm-06 on standard long action or 6mm Rem AI in standard Mauser action.
The things I love about my 6-250 include:
1) easy to get brass (just neck up 22-250 cases)
2) heavy rifle/long barrel minimizing recoil & muzzle blast so tons of fun to shoot
3) built by a bench rest rifle smith down south with a Sako tube so SUPER accurate
4) not a huge case so it doesn’t hog powder
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6 XC for now. Very wide flat tune node from 39.5-41.5g of H4350 using 105-107g bullets...tiny, tiny groups. Tubb is making some very, very tough brass($69 per hundred)
115g at 3050.
R#17 jacks speeds up 100 fps.
I use 7 1/2 in the Small primer brass and Fed 210's in the large rifle brass.
Also made brass from 308 brass, still shot small groups 2's and smaller, neck trim and turn are involved
Finishing up a 6 BRA now.
The 6 Dasher and 6 BRX produce 243 Velocities with 10+g less powder.
The 6x47 Lapua is a hands down winner, NO down side.
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Old school........
6XC........have since retired the barrel.......project.......
Very efficient........built mine in 2007.........
no brass .............dies were _______________
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