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For a lightweight (-6 1/2lbs) hunting rifle, 10 shots, 100 yds.
Obviously factory vs custom rifle would possibly be different, same for handloads vs factory, caliber, optics etc...

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A few data points ... popcorn and all.

It's obviously not a BR gun, or a precision rifle , so I'm wondering why you'd want a 10 shot group in the first place as you'll likely never (neither have I) shoot 10 shots in a relatively short period. I could see shooting a couple of shots every day for 5 days at the same target to see what's happening, but otherwise I'd skip it entirely and look at a max 5 shot group MAYBE. If you're still intent on the 10 shot group I'd guess 1.5-2" on a good day with a skinny barrel.

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.338 Winchester or .223?

All good points. You're exactly right. I guess my only reason for a fast 10 shot group was seeing what the barrel would do cold bore shot, through too hot to touch. Shot a
1 1/4" group. I was over all happy with it out of Kimber Montana. Purely a hunting gun, so without a doubt, all that matters is that first cold bore shot hitting same POI every time.

.308 based chamberings. .260/7-08/.308

A writer friend finally broke down and bought a New Ultra Light Arms a few years ago, after putting THREE DOZEN shots into a little more than an inch, firing as fast he could aim correctly, from a rifle NULA sent him for a review. Can't remember for sure whether he bought the actual rifle used in the tests, but he may have.

Though my Montana 223 with a hawk hill barrel shot this yesterday... First group 10 rds of 55vmax in one hole, 2nd group 10rds of 62gr TSX shot all 20 with no cool down period between shots/groups. Barrel was HOT and mirage made it tough to shoot the last three.

My CLR in 30-06 that Melvin worked on will stack them even when the barrel is scorching. The most consistent rifle I own, and why i'm seriously thinking about full length bedding my Montana 7-08. What's your take MD?

Nice shootin' jack.

Thanks, I built it to shoot the 75Amax, but it hated them. I just finished loading a bunch of 77gr Sierra TMK's to try. Hoping they'll shine in it.
Get hung up on groups like that and lose sight of what's really needed for deer sized, and up, game.

Damn!!!

PM me the max load,

Please and thank you.

I’m sitting on a pile of those.

I have benchmark, TAC, Varget and Shooters World Tactical I large quanties.

And WSR and CCI small rifle and Rem 6-1/2 and 7-1/2 primers by the thousands.

25.5gr Varget, 55gr V-max touching lands at 2.275 C O.A.L.
CCI 400, R-P Brass. The Fiocchi 50gr V-max loads are almost as good. Good enough I wonder why I waste my time reloading for that particular round in this rifle.

Hawk Hill has it together. A lot to be said for an accurate .223. Makes a mediocre shooter look good. It likes the forend held lightly. My Hart barreled Montana 7-08AI will cut the group's in Half shooting free recoil though.

In full disclosure, that group was shot with an old Leupold vari-x II 3-9x. I'm sure with a decent scope I could cut that group in half😁

It was probably gloss. How about some rifle pics!

Too funny...I put an old gloss scope with friction adjustments on an Encore 209x50;for my son today. Shot 1 1/2" groups with BH209, CCI mag primers, 240gr XTP's and harvester crush rib Sabot's...
Pic of the twins, .223 on the right.

I splurged on a vari-X III 2.5-8 for the 7-08AI!

Yes sir ....nice shooting!.....Hb