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Hankins converted my CVA Apex 45-70 three or four years ago. Haven't taken my Savage 220 slug gun out since I started using the smokeless muzzleloader.



What load are you using? I have an Apex getting ready to shoot this week finally.

ihookem, I may know of a converted Encore barrel is you are looking.


200 gr Hornady SST, harvester blue sabot, 55 gr 4198. Purchased 100 of the SST's and have killed a pile of deer so far. May try something else when they're gone but no real reason to.

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55gr and a 200gr SST aint that hot of a load but its still better than most smokers can do. Damn cheap to shoot too as far as the powder goes.

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Originally Posted by Overkill45
55gr and a 200gr SST aint that hot of a load but its still better than most smokers can do. Damn cheap to shoot too as far as the powder goes.


Goes a little over 2400 fps from what I remember. Best part is the light recoil and no cleaning between shots.

Just ordered some 225 gr Fury's to try. Will probably start with the same load 55 gr of H4198 and see how it goes.

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Reviews ive seen with the Fury 225gr and 4198 will surprise you. 55gr is right in the ball park. No real need to go much higher than that unless its more accurate. You wont be giving up any speed with the 225gr according to the data ive seen posted. You may even gain a little.

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Wish I could find a cva apex barrel in 45-70 to go smokeless. Currently running blackhorn which is very nice. Smokeless would be better.

Shot a smokeless this summer for the first time out to 475 yards. Count me as impressed for sure

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