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I've a friend there now. She was observing, but due to her status, can't send photos (big brother is watching)

100,000 protesters in the streets. Firebombed at least one MTR entrance, a number of stations shut down. Central Kowloon area. Protesters barricaded Nathan road for heaven's sake.


https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...ock-roads-during-illegal-march-hong-kong

I'm supposed to transit through HKG in early December. I have an 11 hour lay over, and thought I'd MTR into Kowloon. Now? Not so much....



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Future martyrs. China said they will not back down.

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and, let me guess, none of the commoners there are allowed to have firearms. how long until we are right where they are?

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Originally Posted by kid0917
and, let me guess, none of the commoners there are allowed to have firearms. how long until we are right where they are?


20 years ?

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I wonder how the chicoms are going to spin it. Liberation?

Re-education camps being geared up?

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Originally Posted by viking
I wonder how the chicoms are going to spin it. Liberation?

Re-education camps being geared up?


Camps are already active. Unfortunately, I believe they will kill some of the protestors.

China philosophy: Managing 1.7 billion people can't be accomplished in a democracy.

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Re-education camps being geared up?[/quote]

Camps are already active. Unfortunately, I believe they will kill some of the protestors.

China philosophy: Managing 1.7 billion people can't be accomplished in a democracy. [/quote]

Why do we have trade deals or any dealings with this outlaw country? I would be happy though if the malcontents here would go on a one way trip there.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Why do we have trade deals or any dealings with this outlaw country? I would be happy though if the malcontents here would go on a one way trip there.


Because everyone wanted $300 computers.

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Why do we have trade deals or any dealings with this outlaw country? I would be happy though if the malcontents here would go on a one way trip there.


Because everyone wanted $300 computers.

Why should we care what China does with their own people?
It's like this Syria Kurd thing,, WGAF
Maybe China and countries in the middle east should be telling us how to handle our domestic affairs.

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Hong Kong 2019 is USA pre 1776. Hong Kong is NOT mainland China.

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Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by kelbro
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Why do we have trade deals or any dealings with this outlaw country? I would be happy though if the malcontents here would go on a one way trip there.


Because everyone wanted $300 computers.

Why should we care what China does with their own people?
It's like this Syria Kurd thing,, WGAF
Maybe China and countries in the middle east should be telling us how to handle our domestic affairs.


Interesting perspective, and I agree with it.


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I hope and pray you're right, but I don't see how. Those folks got nothing but determination on their side. I'm heartsick that these people call on us to support them in the fight for freedom, and we're nearly powerless to help.
Not to mention the fact that a large portion of our own government, and about half of our population, wish to bring the same type of tyranny to our own country.
I wish we could ship a few million defense rifles and ammunition to those in Honk kong. At least they could make it a good fight.
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Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by kelbro
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Why do we have trade deals or any dealings with this outlaw country? I would be happy though if the malcontents here would go on a one way trip there.


Because everyone wanted $300 computers.

Why should we care what China does with their own people?
It's like this Syria Kurd thing,, WGAF
Maybe China and countries in the middle east should be telling us how to handle our domestic affairs.


Maybe we should take a page from their playbook on controlling the domestic unruly like Antifa and make stupid really hurt. 😎


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Remember Tiananmen Square. Maybe thousands killed there. Thousands or more arrests after that. Some open executions, how many secrete executions is unknown.

These Chinese communists we have been building up and supporting since Nixon ended diplomatic isolation have been the empowerment of evil. An empowerment built purely on greed and lust for power.

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Originally Posted by viking
I wonder how the chicoms are going to spin it.

China, "Don't poke the Bear!"


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I'm not sure what the international reaction to a "Nathan Road" incident would be like. I'd be willing to bet that Trump would just flat out embargo China, period. Get the EU on board as well, and China is in very, very deep manure.



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Originally Posted by Armednfree
Remember Tiananmen Square. Maybe thousands killed there. Thousands or more arrests after that. Some open executions, how many secrete executions is unknown.

These Chinese communists we have been building up and supporting since Nixon ended diplomatic isolation have been the empowerment of evil. An empowerment built purely on greed and lust for power.


Pretty much just greed on the west's side.

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China will only tolerate this for so long-- then it will be Tienaman square again---

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The Brits should have cut a deal where HK was independent. To their shame.


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