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https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/federal/2019/results/

Early returns. The Liberals are down by 6 or 7 in the Atlantic provinces. The Conservatives up by 5 or 6. A wee bit of erosion. About 2 hrs to see if the Grits continue to bleed.

That's encouraging! Fingers crossed.

Good luck neighbor.

Damn

Goodale is HISTORY!!!!!!! I only wish the Blair had also gone down but, alas, he is still there in TO.
It's going to be an interesting ride now with a Lib minority with the NDP and Bloc holding us hostage.
While we will endure a Lib govt, at least I am represented by Glen Motz still.

Good to see Gooddale gone, finally.

Other than that it's disappointing that with all of Trudeau's scandals , idiots still voted for him. Some parts of the country never learn.

This.

Unofficial results as of 0430 EST

Liberal - 157
Conservative - 121
Bloc Québécois - 32
New Democrat - 24
Green - 3
Independent - 1

170 seats are needed to form a majority. It appears the Liberals have a minority government, so they will be sucking up to either the NDP or the Bloc to pass legislation.

I can't believe the 905 / 416 ers put this blackface enthusiest / misogynist back into power.

We are severely screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yep!!! Going down the big flush whirlpool ( again ). How can people be so stupid!!??? I'm definitely not in a good mood!!! This sucks the big onion. Here comes the new gun laws, possession rules, et all. Do people really believe that taking all the guns from law abiding citizens is going to solve a problem. I find it hard to believe??? Really, we are now a country of idiots run by an idiot. If I was younger I'd head for northern ont, maybe Alberta, or British Columbia. Have a good day, cause I'm sure not going TO, dam just dam!!!!!!!!!!!! Bill out, Our new prime minister 🤡🤡🤡🤡 or maybe 👹👹👹or 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

I don't know if anyone has produced a map of the southern Ontario ridings, comparing 2015 to 2019, but here is the overall standing. The Liberals and the NDP lost and the Cons and the Bloc gained. There is a large immigrant base in and around Toronto. I'll leave it to the pundits to dissect how the vote went there.


Liberal was 177, now 157 - loss of 20 seats

Conservative was 95, now 121 - gain of 26 seats

Bloc was 10, now 32 - gain of 22

NDP was 39, now 24 - loss of 15

Green was 2, now 3 - gain of 1

Others was 9, now 1 - loss of 8

Alberta is screwed again. I welcome separation. The east does nothing for us.

According to this CBC interactive, Ontario voted out 1 Liberal and two NDPs. The Conservatives hold three more seats there, than last election.

The Bloc gained 22 seats in Quebec at the expense of the Liberals and the NDP. You separatists are all the same.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/federal/2019/results/

Leave 'em and join the USA.

A minority government won't be spending, creating foolish legislation and hiding their sins with impunity.
It will expose more of the corruption and we will have another election soon enough.
It will give Westerners an opportunity to organize as a group ( excluding Vancouver and area).
Folks, get involved- it works better if all voters pay attention.

Big +1

It’s been a one-sided, abusive relationship since the beginning of the confederation. After last night’s results, I’ll be writing a letter to the Premier’s office explaining my wishes to be free of the shackles of Ottawa and the east. The West has fundamentally different views, culture, and preferences in its governance than the East. WEXIT.

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this would be big step but it would be the best move for the Canadian Western Providence, succeed from Canada and become part of United States, with President Trump in office it could happen ?

Someone famously said: "...one of the 57 states...".

Could be one of the "58 states".

Get ready for a vote of non confidence, it will happen. Nobody is happy with the results and Westerners will not have any representation in cabinet. ( Vancouver doesn't count)
We will have another election soon.
Trudeau does not represent Canada, just a privileged few .
He will not stand up to heavy scrutiny.
In the meantime Westerners will organize. Heads up , folks

Looks like Canada is going in the right direction anyway. It took us the 2010, 2012, 2014 and then the 2016 to gain control, and what do the conservatives do? they spent their time fighting of course.

Yeah, as much as I think the U.S. needs to have a split, Canada seems even more divided...you have quite a dichotomy going on there.

Schitt, boys, move to Nashville!!

We need more good folks who love their God-Given Rights

Depends a lot on what the Quid Pro Quo costs.

Does anyone know what the BlocQ’s stance really is on Fiberal “Gun Control” ?
Or the NDP ?

We may just find out what lengths they will go to,

Just recently moved into western Canada. My previous riding in NW Ontario went CPC again after one term as Lieberal.

My new riding in rural Manitoba went strongly CPC as they usually do.

I wish Trudeau no harm, but if he needs someone to preach his funeral, I'd volunteer.

Soap Box Time

I think it's business as usual. Canada has a reputation of voting parties out. IOW, we tend to get rid of a party rather than elect one to govern. It's still the Liberal's turn. Next election, it will probably be the Conservatives again.

If one looks at the political parties here, we are pretty messed up. We have one group, the Bloc, that wishes to secede from Canada. They aren't a national party at all, and only field candidates in Quebec. Then we have another party, the Greens, who, until May of this year, only had one member elected to Parliament. Bear in mind that there are 338 elected MPs in Ottawa.

Why then, were Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) and Elizabeth May (Green) allowed to participate in the televised French and English national debates? Neither is an official party. Neither elected enough members to have official status in Parliament. The Bloc had 10 members, and the Greens had 2. You need at least 12. That's messed up in my view. Having those two participate, watered things down. Some of the message got drowned out or ignored because there were too many debaters.

The west can crab about separation, but they would be better off lobbying for an overhaul of Parliamentary rules and procedures, as well as the restructuring of the Senate. The whole country hears from Elizabeth May daily, yet ordinary Canadians, westerners included, never get that level of attention in the media or on Parliament Hill. This is the inequity.

Why did the Conservatives lose the election when they had more of the popular vote? Justin Trudeau said that he would change the present election system from "first past the post" to "proportional representation". He didn't, and that's lucky for him. Another broken promise. Had he actually fulfilled that election promise, the Liberals would be the Official Opposition and the Conservatives would have been the governing party.

The political system needs an overhaul.

Excellent assessment sir!

YUP and MAX PPC had NO Seats ! WTF ? RJ

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I think that most people thought of them as a fringe party. I know the people around here didn't take them seriously.

Of the almost 73,000 votes cast in my riding, the PPC only managed 1,369 (less than 2%). Compare that to the Conservative candidate, who got almost 32,000 (44%). The Liberals totaled about 23,000 (31%). The greens did better than the PPC, with a little over 8000 votes (11%)

In their latest release, the CSSA said that the PPC cost the Conservatives votes. From the TEAM CSSA E-NEWS | OCTOBER 24, 2019 --

Voting PPC cost the Conservative Party a total of seven seats – six ridings elected a Liberal when they could have elected a Conservative MP, and another elected an NDP. Had PPC voters supported an electable candidate, the Conservatives would have seven more seats in Parliament.

The CPC ran a candidate here too. I don't know much about them and happen to be a card carrying Conservative.
I like Sheer but the Conservatives need a more dynamic / perfectly bilingual candidate, likely from Ontario or alternatively the west acts more like the Bloc and provide a more unified approach. Maybe with separation lurking in the shadows.
Y'know North America should be split North to South anyways. Albertan's and Arizonan's (sp?) are much alike, Eastern BC'ers and Montanan's also.
The flipping continent is just split up wrong and there is no reason( that I can see) northern Montanan's cannot work in the S.E ,B.C. mines( 60 ish miles away). Instead we hire them from nearby Newfoundland.....but I digress

The CPC picked up 26 seats this election with Sheer at the helm. A gain that was destined to be, not because of how good or bad the Conservative leadership was, but because voters were angry with Trudeau's Liberals. It was clearly a message from Canadians to the sitting government.

The Conservative gains would have been more, but for the arrival of the PPC. According to the CSSA (TEAM CSSA E-NEWS | OCTOBER 24, 2019), the PPC caused a vote split which cost the Conservatives 7 seats. They should have gained 33. Regardless, the Conservatives now have 26 more MPs, and everyone here would agree this is a positive change.

WRT those gains, we knew that the election would be close. Pundits predicted (correctly) that the Liberals would be punished for not performing, but not thrown out. That seemed to be the case: the polls hardly changed throughout the 40 days of campaigning. This steady state put them neck and neck with the Conservatives. The polls were not indicating a Liberal ouster, but they were down from 2015. In the end, the Liberals got handed a big slice of humble pie. With a minority government, they will have to watch themselves. It has been argued by political scientists that minority governments often turn out better than majority ones. The downside is, they generally don't last long - typically less than two years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_minority_governments_in_Canada

In another thread in the Canada forum, some posters said that all the polls were skewed, but they were wrong. I believe that the election result was a simple message from Canadians to Justin Trudeau - Smarten the f*ck up!

The next step for the Liberals is to re-think how they will govern. Trudeau's handlers will read him the riot act. Part of the bad news will be that you probably won't be around in two years unless you perform superbly, but that ain't gonna happen.

And the Conservatives? Well, despite the gains in the HoC, Sheer will be held responsible for not winning. It's one of the things about leadership that sucks. Sometimes, even though it isn't your fault, you pay with your head. The Cons will consider replacing him, but it's a bit early yet to know if that will happen.

And the media? Nothing will change. They will continue to misreport much of the news.

Oops PPC not CPC

Which they will likely ignore after some initial mumbling, after which it will be "business as usual", to the relief of his fellow KoolAid™ drinkers.


... and from a certain segment of the population: LEAVE OUR GUNS ALONE!