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Actually it was his claim that one of the reasons the Creedmoor was developed was to avoid powder encroachment. I don't know enough about the history of the cartridge to have an opinion on it one way or the other; but yeah, he also mentioned magazine length, ogive length, etc. I believe he's going to follow-up with a similar article about the 6.5x55.

Maybe he read your Gack II article!

I guess I'm a lucky guy.....while I have no complaints on the 7 x 57 or any such cartridge I simply choose to avoid such issues and chamber my guns to the .280 Remington......it just seems to be the thing to do

I've been giving that some thought.

vapodog,

Why do you bother with that newfangled fad of a .280, when the .30-06 will do anything it will, and more?

Lol speaking for myself....because its hard to shoot a 120 grain 308 bullet with a .400 bc.

...that said...i am a rifle whore with a 30-06 Any way lol

i built a 25 Creedmoor it shoots good but i feel it should maybe shoot better ,i guess i will have to play with it more it does have a new Brux #7 size - 7 1/2 twist barrel .

i also built a 257 Roberts with a Brux #3 size - 7 1/2 twist barrel it shoots as good as the 25 Creedmoor so far and the 257 Roberts is a 7x57 type cartridge case and this is just a hunting rifle with only a few bell`s and whistles. but it is a long action rifle compared to the short action Creedmoor. nice part about a 257 Roberts is very little recoil too and dang accurate cartridge also . i plan on giving these 257 Roberts rifles to my grandchildren and daughter and will load and buy plenty ammo for them too.

the Creedmoor cartridge is just another good accurate cartridge but if you want a accurate,less recoil,proven winner on the bench even out too 1000 yards just buy a 6mm B.R. it is just more fun to shoot !

M.D. is right too a simple 30-06 is and always will be hard to beat for hunting ,i purchased another 30-06 in a pump for use in trailing wounded critters ,ammo can be purchased easy in any place in the world.

What we need is a 6.5 Rigby, If I ever put together a 6.5x57 I think I will get it stamped 6.5 Rigby.

Rigby wouldn't use millimeters.

We also need a 7.62 Creedmoor....

Oops, my mistake. We already have the .300 Savage.

Welllll….again quite simply.....I already have four functional.30-06 rifles and two .270 rifles.....If one is afflicted with the deadly gun builders disease, then the .280 fits well.....besides, they make great gifts to ranchers where I kill elk and want to reward them for any special efforts they make in assisting the removal of the carcass to the camp. A 7 x 57 just don't fit well in the hands of folks that aren't serious reloaders.

And yes, I'm now taking meds to reduce the urge to build more guns.....

Good heavens. Call 1-800-222-1222 right away!


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Loaded to full steam in a bolt gun that's what it is. My 700 Classic loves long seated 168 VLD Bergers.

True this...

I know you jest, but the 7.62 Creedmoor was quite literally the 30 TC.

Your comments about the Creedmoor and powder space are spot on. I'm not sure why but there is a common misconception that somehow bumping the shoulders back on the Creemoor (compared to the 260) results in less encroachment on powder space. As you said, it has less powder space in loaded form, not more. It was mostly all about the ogive and long bullet noses, as you said.

Yondering,

Yeah, I know the 7.62 Creedmoor is the .300 T/C! And the only real difference between the .300 Savage and the .30 T/C is the T/C's slightly longer neck. As another gun writer mentioned (in a private conversation) when the .30 T/C appeared, "Hornady and T/C went to a lot of trouble to reinvent the .300 Savage."

I have also mentioned in print, more than once, that Hornady's claim that the 6.5 Creedmoor is a completely original case design is somewhat questionable. I saw my first 6.5 CM case in 2010,and it reminded me a LOT of the RCBS .250 Savage Improved--which had a 28-degree shoulder. And in my first article on the 6.5 Creedmoor, published that year, I described how to fire-form .22-250 cases to 6.5 Creedmoor with the Cream of Wheat method--which works very well.

An awful lot of "new and completely original" cartridges go back to Charles Newton's .250-3000--and the .300 Savage, which was essentially a follow-up on the same case.

I do have somewhere a reamer that is for the 6.5x257 roberts ai. 40degree shoulder.

My bad a .256 Rigby.

458 Creedmoor ? maybe call it > alot of Creedmoor

Nosler manual #4 had a load for the 280 Remington, with the 160-162g bullets at 2950 that I found to be spot on. The new Hornady VLD-X in 162g at 2950 out of a 24" barrel is tremendous.

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