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Thanks for all the great information! Will probably go pick up .308 today.
Is there really a problem finding a smith to work on metric rifles? I don't plan to do anything to it but shoot the heck out of it in the short term but down the road who knows.
so for Scope bases and rings.. I have some bases and rings that from a long action Remington 700. I have read they work on the long action Howa but don't know about the short actions. Is a one piece rail a better way to go?
Thanks again.
Most competent gunsmiths should know how to do metric threads. Howa bases are compatible with Remington 700 bases but I have only used 2 piece on both actions. I am not sure that one piece will work.
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Is there really a problem finding a smith to work on metric rifles?
Thanks again.
There is zero chance that I would send anything to a “smith” who says he can’t work work on metric threads. It’s BS nonsense from people who are just regurgitating crap they heard or read.
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Cutting metric threads isn't a big deal for any competent 'smith, but getting the barrel off a Howa 1500 action can be a challenge.
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One piece 700 bases are not compatible.
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Two piece Rem 700 Talley Lightweight mounts aren’t compatible or I was in a hurry and need to try again.
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You were in a hurry or need to try again.
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Recently I been playing with a Howa Mini HB in 6.5 Grendel. Working up reloads for it, and I find it amazing the velocities that you can get out of 31 grains or less of powder with such a little case. It's fun round!! Sounds good. Standard contour on layaway still here. Here's a 1500 6.5 Creedmoor I messed around with. Someone here bought it. Wondering how they liked it? I did shoots great Very nice gun for the $$$ Now wears a Burris C4 Hank
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Recently I been playing with a Howa Mini HB in 6.5 Grendel. Working up reloads for it, and I find it amazing the velocities that you can get out of 31 grains or less of powder with such a little case. It's fun round!! Sounds good. Standard contour on layaway still here. Here's a 1500 6.5 Creedmoor I messed around with. Someone here bought it. Wondering how they liked it? I did shoots great Very nice gun for the $$$ Now wears a Burris C4 Hank Thanks Hank. Man, that seems so long ago now! Good to hear. That's one of many rifles that had to go, to justify mo!
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Is the Vanguard stock that you don't like the current Vanguard2 Griptonite stock or the older style of stock?
I don't care for the older Vanguard stocks, but think that, for me, the V2 Griptonite stock is one of the very best injection molded stocks that manufacturers are currently making. It's just the distinctive Weatherby style of the stock that I don't like. If it had a straight comb, the V2 stock would be perfect. The quality is very good, I agree with you on that.
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Howa or Weatherby Vanguard? I appear to repeat myself. This is the first one I have seen that was stamped both Howa and Weatherby.
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I the category of Push-feed Bolt actions, I rate them as the best. Not just the best for the money. The BEST.
If I were to criticize them the 2 things I think they should change is to get rid of the painted "HOWA" on the floor plate, and to use a far larger diameter screw in their bolt stop. The repair I have done on Howas the most is to replace the small broken screws that come in to this shop with larger screws so they never shear off again. Quick easy and cheap.
I also think Howa should consider making a left hand version. The LH market would welcome it.
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szihn, I agree wholeheartedly with your post on all points.
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I've had quite a few Howas and with the exception of a 6.5X55, they all shot good. I like the action, the 3 stage safety, and the trigger. But, I do not like the current Hogue stock, as they make the rifles heavy and clunky feeling. I recently put a scope on a new, although no longer made, Howa Lightning model in 243. The rifle weighed almost 8 pounds, and this was with a 20 inch barrel, minus scope. To me, that's a little too heavy.
I'd like to have another Howa, as I've traded all mine away, but I just can't find any love for them. The only Howa I think I'd own these days is one of the Alpine rifles that they made, and have now discontinued. The only exception to that is a Howa that is currently being shown in their catalogs as having an HS Precision stock.
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I think Howa would benefit from investing in a quality injection molded stock that is made specifically for them, similar to what Weatherby has done with the Vanguard. The HS Precision models are awfully expensive for what you get (a Howa barreled action and a composite stock). The Hogue is fine for hunting, but Howa could do much better even as far as injection molded synthetic stocks go.
I don’t mind the weight of the Howa/Vanguard. I think an Alpine Mountain Rifle would be cool to have for fun, but like the HS Precision it was expensive and not even stainless steel. Overall I think I shoot better with a little more weight anyway. I never minded carrying my Vanguard with a padded sling.
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Howa and Rem 700 bases utilize same dimensions. Obviously a rail would be based on LA vs SA. While the actions are a bit heavy they can take a pounding. One piece steel bolt and handle, excellent oversized recoil lug for great accuracy in a bedded stock, receiver and recoil lug forged from a solid billet of steel. About as durable an action there is. Many custom rifle builders have used Howa actions on their lower price point rifle builds, Charlie Sisk is one that comes to mind.
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I used a Redfield 1 piece Rem 700 base on my Mossberg badged 1500...Fit perfect...
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Speaking of the alpine stocks to lighten the load, I haven't seen any on ebay for awhile. Any other sources out there?
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