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Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14247257 11/01/19
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Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14247263 11/01/19
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Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14247267 11/01/19
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fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷	lLillja 9t. Been doing this whole barrel dance for six months. LOL. Last edited by fredIII; 11/01/19.

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14247272 11/01/19
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Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14247280 11/01/19
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fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷	Barrel matter. LOL. Most advice would be better Dispensed here And ok at best is exactly what pacnor was hopefully they rebuild modernize and kill it with a new face. Would never wish a gun company such pain. Last edited by fredIII; 11/01/19.

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Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14247293 11/01/19
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Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14247311 11/01/19
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fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷	Elk Brux, Douglas Deer. Benchmark, wilson Brux, and a pacnor. 😂 Last edited by fredIII; 11/01/19.

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while irfubar #14247340 11/01/19
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fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷	Originally Posted by irfubar I have had a dozen Douglas barrels and got 2 bad ones. I have had 4 ER Shaw and all have been spectacular... I have had 5 Montana Rifle Co. barrels and they have been very good. I had one Adams & Bennet and it was very good. I had one Brux and it was good. I have had 3 McGowen and they are ok..... That's all..... Me to but it’s an old pic and I only have five left.

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14247382 11/01/19
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,345 Paradise,Alaska	Too fhuqking funny! I heard the Fence Hopping Dueling Banjo's,before opening the Thread. Always a hoot,to have cross-eyed Droolers "unleash" their very WELL founded Insecurities and swoon Dinks,Rats and Retardation in no particular fhuqking order. Hint. Congratulations?!? It always pays,to go the extry mile...especially with 1913 MoMo's. Google it. Hint. Laughing! Key is CAREFULLY packaging the works. Hint. Laughing! Happiness is predicated upon clear/concise communications,with particulars articulately stated PRECISELY,so as to avoid confusion. Hint. Laughing! Always prudent to conceal wares in a Reupold Wrapper,to deter them without. Hint. Laughing! Weather is tough,with a Monsoon/Hurricane,so I'll not expect it back in much more than a week. Hint. Somebody better get crackin'! Hint. LAUGHING!..................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14247394 11/01/19
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T_O_M Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,453 State of Jefferson	Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho Who do you guys like for a good barrel maker with a reasonable turn around time and decent prices? Lots of good barrels out there but that turn around can vary greatly. I have had good luck with Lilja for within $25 of Pac-Nor's price and equal or faster turn-around. I will not deal with Hart again. What they shipped isn't what I ordered. Essentially I asked for a .75 muzzle on a 700 shank. They sent a #6 straight taper. Despite me sending back the email thread with our discussion about what I wanted, they would not stand behind their mistake and got very abusive. I tucked tail and had the gun built to their specs, not mine. That was my 2nd failure, double regrets, because it wasn't what I wanted and it did not shoot well. Tom Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip. Here be dragons ...

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Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14247443 11/01/19
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Remington6MM Campfire Tracker R Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington	Anybody else smell something like the lid just came off a septic tank? Geezzz, is Stinky around? I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Remington6MM #14247562 11/01/19
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fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷	Originally Posted by Remington6MM Anybody else smell something like the lid just came off a septic tank? Geezzz, is Stinky around? 😂😂

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14248178 11/01/19
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jdunham Campfire Tracker J Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,319 Unfortunately NY	I have Brux, Bartlein, PacNor, and Lilja and all have been screwed on right and shoot. I like to just buy from Bugholes since they have a pretty good selection in stock and I hate waiting. If I want a contour Bugholes doesn't carry I will order it from one of the manufacturers direct. I just ordered a barrel from Lilja less then 2 weeks ago, Melanie just called and told me it was done and she was shipping it today. Wasn't expecting that quick of a turnaround but I will definitely take it. NRA Life Member ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while T_O_M #14248207 11/01/19
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jackmountain Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 23,686 western VA	Originally Posted by T_O_M Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho Who do you guys like for a good barrel maker with a reasonable turn around time and decent prices? Lots of good barrels out there but that turn around can vary greatly. I have had good luck with Lilja for within $25 of Pac-Nor's price and equal or faster turn-around. I will not deal with Hart again. What they shipped isn't what I ordered. Essentially I asked for a .75 muzzle on a 700 shank. They sent a #6 straight taper. Despite me sending back the email thread with our discussion about what I wanted, they would not stand behind their mistake and got very abusive. I tucked tail and had the gun built to their specs, not mine. That was my 2nd failure, double regrets, because it wasn't what I wanted and it did not shoot well. Tom I have one Hart. It'll be the last.

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while jackmountain #14248228 11/01/19
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fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷	Originally Posted by jackmountain Originally Posted by T_O_M Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho Who do you guys like for a good barrel maker with a reasonable turn around time and decent prices? Lots of good barrels out there but that turn around can vary greatly. I have had good luck with Lilja for within $25 of Pac-Nor's price and equal or faster turn-around. I will not deal with Hart again. What they shipped isn't what I ordered. Essentially I asked for a .75 muzzle on a 700 shank. They sent a #6 straight taper. Despite me sending back the email thread with our discussion about what I wanted, they would not stand behind their mistake and got very abusive. I tucked tail and had the gun built to their specs, not mine. That was my 2nd failure, double regrets, because it wasn't what I wanted and it did not shoot well. Tom I have one Hart. It'll be the last. Don’t blame you. Never impressed with the only one I have.

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while jackmountain #14248243 11/01/19
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AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,865	Originally Posted by jackmountain I have one Hart. It'll be the last. Inquiring minds and all that ... ?

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14248246 11/01/19
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elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,040 Southern New Mexico	Shilen. Douglas. Montana Rifle Co. E.R. Shaw Montana Rifle Co. Adams & Bennet. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while fredIII #14248288 11/01/19
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jackmountain Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 23,686 western VA	Originally Posted by fredIII Originally Posted by jackmountain Originally Posted by T_O_M Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho Who do you guys like for a good barrel maker with a reasonable turn around time and decent prices? Lots of good barrels out there but that turn around can vary greatly. I have had good luck with Lilja for within $25 of Pac-Nor's price and equal or faster turn-around. I will not deal with Hart again. What they shipped isn't what I ordered. Essentially I asked for a .75 muzzle on a 700 shank. They sent a #6 straight taper. Despite me sending back the email thread with our discussion about what I wanted, they would not stand behind their mistake and got very abusive. I tucked tail and had the gun built to their specs, not mine. That was my 2nd failure, double regrets, because it wasn't what I wanted and it did not shoot well. Tom I have one Hart. It'll be the last. Don’t blame you. Never impressed with the only one I have. 🤣

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while AKwolverine #14248295 11/01/19
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jackmountain Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 23,686 western VA	Originally Posted by AKwolverine Originally Posted by jackmountain I have one Hart. It'll be the last. Inquiring minds and all that ... ? Turn around and customer service was exceptional just not impressed with how finicky it's been. Rest of the platform is perfect. Wish accuracy was as impressive as every other aspect of the rifle. I'll go Hawk Hill again next time.

Re: Now that Pac-Nor is out of action for a while Jim in Idaho #14248337 11/01/19
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AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,865	Appreciate it.

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