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Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: ZKight89] #13548958 02/10/19
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I would go with #6’s.


Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: ZKight89] #13552013 02/11/19
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https://www.federalpremium.com/prod...pheasants-forever-high-velocity/pf204-75

Here is a link for some 7 1/2s. Only 1 ounce but still plenty of shot for the ranges you will be shooting the 20 gauge with 7 1/2s.


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Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: ZKight89] #13554769 02/12/19
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Load you up some TSS. I have been hunting with my 2 3/4" 20 ga TSS loads for several years, I don't take long shots, but they will legit kill out past 60 yds if you mess up your range estimation.

Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: urbaneruralite] #13565186 02/15/19
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Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
Sounds like older guns you might not want to use heavier-than-lead in. TSS will score a barrel if it gets loose from the wad.

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I shoot Federal premium loads with 1 1/8 ounce of copper plated #7&1/2 shot in an 870 full choke.
Got a link for that load?


I bought a lifetime supply years ago. There is a photo of a box of them in the article I linked to here. Haven't looked but I'd bet they are still available.

http://traditionalmuzzleloader.com/index.php/muffin-mix-turkey-loads


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Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: urbaneruralite] #13581283 02/19/19
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Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
Sounds like older guns you might not want to use heavier-than-lead in. TSS will score a barrel if it gets loose from the wad.

Originally Posted by prairie dog shooter
I shoot Federal premium loads with 1 1/8 ounce of copper plated #7&1/2 shot in an 870 full choke.
Got a link for that load?


Been loading TSS for 10 yrs, and it is perfectly safe to shoot in older guns. If loaded correctly there is zero chance that you will score your barrel.

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Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: slickyboyboo] #13581345 02/19/19
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Originally Posted by slickyboyboo
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Sounds like older guns you might not want to use heavier-than-lead in. TSS will score a barrel if it gets loose from the wad.

Originally Posted by prairie dog shooter
I shoot Federal premium loads with 1 1/8 ounce of copper plated #7&1/2 shot in an 870 full choke.
Got a link for that load?


Been loading TSS for 10 yrs, and it is perfectly safe to shoot in older guns. If loaded correctly there is zero chance that you will score your barrel.


"If"? TSS loads are notorious for things migrating around. Using TSS in a gun that has special value, sentimental or otherwise, is gambling,


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Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: urbaneruralite] #13581400 02/19/19
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Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
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Sounds like older guns you might not want to use heavier-than-lead in. TSS will score a barrel if it gets loose from the wad.

Originally Posted by prairie dog shooter
I shoot Federal premium loads with 1 1/8 ounce of copper plated #7&1/2 shot in an 870 full choke.
Got a link for that load?


Been loading TSS for 10 yrs, and it is perfectly safe to shoot in older guns. If loaded correctly there is zero chance that you will score your barrel.


"If"? TSS loads are notorious for things migrating around. Using TSS in a gun that has special value, sentimental or otherwise, is gambling,


Negative ghost rider. I don't know what loads you are talking about, but I have never had an issue of migrating anything in any of my TSS loads. As long as you roll or fold crimp them tight and properly, there is absolutely zero issue.

Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: slickyboyboo] #13582231 02/19/19
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Originally Posted by slickyboyboo
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Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
Sounds like older guns you might not want to use heavier-than-lead in. TSS will score a barrel if it gets loose from the wad.

Originally Posted by prairie dog shooter
I shoot Federal premium loads with 1 1/8 ounce of copper plated #7&1/2 shot in an 870 full choke.
Got a link for that load?


Been loading TSS for 10 yrs, and it is perfectly safe to shoot in older guns. If loaded correctly there is zero chance that you will score your barrel.


"If"? TSS loads are notorious for things migrating around. Using TSS in a gun that has special value, sentimental or otherwise, is gambling,


Negative ghost rider. I don't know what loads you are talking about, but I have never had an issue of migrating anything in any of my TSS loads. As long as you roll or fold crimp them tight and properly, there is absolutely zero issue.


I agree. You don't know.


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Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: ZKight89] #13584029 02/20/19
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Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
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[quote=urbaneruralite]Sounds like older guns you might not want to use heavier-than-lead in. TSS will score a barrel if it gets loose from the wad.

Been loading TSS for 10 yrs, and it is perfectly safe to shoot in older guns. If loaded correctly there is zero chance that you will score your barrel.


"If"? TSS loads are notorious for things migrating around. Using TSS in a gun that has special value, sentimental or otherwise, is gambling,


Negative ghost rider. I don't know what loads you are talking about, but I have never had an issue of migrating anything in any of my TSS loads. As long as you roll or fold crimp them tight and properly, there is absolutely zero issue.


I agree. You don't know.


Well then, why don't you fill us in about this TSS load that is notorious for migrating components. I cut some of my loads apart a couple of nights ago, that I loaded several years ago, and all the components were exactly where they were when I loaded them. Like I said, if they are loaded correctly, there is zero chance that you have an issue scoring your barrel, or components migrating.

Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: ZKight89] #13585469 02/20/19
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And after I write this thesis for you, you'll tell me they didn't do it "right". Point is OP, who hasn't even replied back, might not want to take a chance on something that might happen, even if the probability is very small. It is small, just not "zero."

Are you selling TSS loads on the side or something?


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Bravo

Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: urbaneruralite] #13585983 02/20/19
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Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
And after I write this thesis for you, you'll tell me they didn't do it "right". Point is OP, who hasn't even replied back, might not want to take a chance on something that might happen, even if the probability is very small. It is small, just not "zero."

Are you selling TSS loads on the side or something?


What thesis, I still don’t see any example of this notorious migration of components that you speak of. So, truth is you have zero real info to back up your claims, it’s just all talk. As for selling ammo on the side, I sure don’t. I have however developed quite a few pressure tested loads, and have plenty of data. I also load all of my own personal ammo, and been doing it for a while.

Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: ZKight89] #13588180 02/21/19
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Thanks Gentlemen, I'm going to pattern some various #6 lead and plated shot loads. As far as heavier than lead I doubt I'll shell out the asking price for ant of it!

Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: ZKight89] #13596340 02/23/19
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Originally Posted by ZKight89
Thanks Gentlemen, I'm going to pattern some various #6 lead and plated shot loads. As far as heavier than lead I doubt I'll shell out the asking price for ant of it!


I spent a LOT of money on lead and copper loads and chokes over the years chasing the perfect combo. Not to mention all the shotguns.

Bought the supplies to load TSS in 2015. Feed it through just about any gun and decent choke and you will get bored counting holes in paper. It’s nothing to print 350+ in 10” circle at 40 with a 20g. Figure I’ll save money in the long run and all but ensure quick clean kills out to any range I will shoot.

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Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: ZKight89] #13597892 02/24/19
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FWIW, I’ve killed plenty of coyotes with 7.5-8 lead 20ga loads to 35 yards over the years. Turkeys ain’t that tough. If you put the pellets in the right places, you’ll be fine with even regular lead at that range. The TSS is a crazy step up, but I never lacked killing ability on birds with a 20ga and lead, either.

Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: prairie dog shooter] #13604748 02/26/19
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Originally Posted by prairie dog shooter
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
Sounds like older guns you might not want to use heavier-than-lead in. TSS will score a barrel if it gets loose from the wad.

Originally Posted by prairie dog shooter
I shoot Federal premium loads with 1 1/8 ounce of copper plated #7&1/2 shot in an 870 full choke.
Got a link for that load?


I bought a lifetime supply years ago. There is a photo of a box of them in the article I linked to here. Haven't looked but I'd bet they are still available.

http://traditionalmuzzleloader.com/index.php/muffin-mix-turkey-loads


Don't think they make them. Fiocchi has a 1 1/4oz load available though. I think I'll sneak some onto a dove field to make the fellas think I'm a better shot than I really am.


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I have shot at one turkey with a 20. I was squirrel hunting with #6s a standard field load and a flock of turkeys was coming toward me. It was fall season for turkey. I waited till They were as close as I would shoot a squirrel. I picked out one with the longest beard and flattened it. I stepped it off and it was 35 yards. I figure if the gun will kill a squirrel it will kill a turkey head.

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To me the shell is the cheapest part of the hunt. A couple shells patterning then one shot for each turkey.
Figure the time and money spent on calls and travels and all the other spent for the hunt and the shells don’t seem that bad.
I load my shells but even if I didn’t I want the best shell possible. After all, three birds a year is only three shots.

Not saying it take tss to kill a turkey but why would one skimp on the shells


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Re: 2 3/4" 20 Gauge Turkey Loads? [Re: ZKight89] #14252463 11/03/19
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TSS is rewriting the recommendations on shot size, lethal killing distance and penetration for Waterfowl and Turkey. I read there was some initial barrel scratching due to certain combinations of components that had excessive pressure. TSS on its own will not migrate any more than steel, lead or other heavier than lead pellets.

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