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I cleaned the hail out of the barrel both before and after shooting the TTSX’s. Last time I shot it I loaded 117hornadys and shot RL23 at I think 47,48,49,50,51(I think... I’m in deer stand without my notes). Also had some 100TTSX loaded and shot them. Both shot more than well enough to hunt with. I had 9 115 partitions loaded with three different charge weights that now escape me... in hopes they would be “the magic load” I shot them. As per the norm they were terrible. That afternoon midway had the 117 hornadys on sale so I ordered 3 boxes and figured I’d just use them.....

You cleaned it before and after the Barnes, but not at all during all that testing with the Hornady's, more Barnes and some Sierra's? Then tested some Noslers?

My book says you need to start over.

Also describe what you mean by "cleaned the hell out of it". Some techniques and products perform very well, others not so much.

Also, how much cooling time between rounds, between powder charge changes and between bullet changes?

I’ve cleaned it down to bare metal. Butch’s bore shine wet patches, wet brushes, dry patches. Repeat. 7.62. Wet patches. Dry patches. Repeat... repeat repeat till it was bare metal. I shoot out of my back garage door. I run a fan on the barrel after a three shot group. Load more ammo as it cools. I’ve shot the Nosler from perfectly clean bore to fairly dirty.

I’ve shot whole sessions with just the Nosler. I’ve shot Nosler, Sierra, hornady, Barnes all in the same session. The Barnes has never been persnickety with clean vs “dirty” bore from std cup and core bullet fouling. Non of them have ever seemed like they care on way or the other in regards to bore cleanliness.

I’ve tried about all I could think of to get it to shoot.... I guess maybe it’s just not meant to be...

But dang.... a 25/06 with a Nosler partition.... that would be cooool!

Dude if ya gotta a load that shoots moa or sub moa consistent
And it kills schitt.
Maybe your spinning your wheels.
Espically during hunting season tweaking stuff .

Jmo.....
After the season

Try floating the barrel and pillar bedding the action.
Free up mag box pressure on the reciever
Play a little with action screw torque.
You can always pressure bed experiment after free floating

See what happens.
You might gain something.

But benjamins also come into play.

Yep, I use Barnes 100 TTSX in mine. Accurate, fast and deadly!

I know you're thinking it.

Switch to 100 gr Partitions, with a faster powder.

I use the 100 TTSX also. I have good luck with 110 Accubonds also

I had an 06 that shot 3 in groups . where I hunted 200 yds would be a long shot. I killed Deer every year for over 10 years with it. most all were one shot kills. I finally traded it.. that was a mistake I want it back it seemed to be my lucky rifle.. I still killed deer but not with the ease I did with the 06'. be careful what you wish for..

This...

My son has killed a huge-bodied bull moose, multiple caribou, Brown bear, mountain goat, and a deer with the 80gr TTSX. I suspect it would work just fine for you.

RE 19 and 100 gr. TSX is a great shooter in my 700 25-06.

I use the non-tipped version because I bought a ton of them prior to the introduction of the TTSX. The 100gn .257 Barnes bullets dig DEEP.

Exactly.

Some rifles like the Partition, some don't. My .240 loves the 100 NPT, its best bullet and I tried a bunch.

Not always the case; seems hit or miss.

Go with what the rifle tells you at the range.

DF

I burnt a lot of different powders over the summer trying to get my Win70 FW to shoot 110 ELDs with no luck. Almost every powder/charge combo printed 2MOA groups.

Like others mentioned, H4350 and RE26 under 100 TTSXs do wonderfully well on paper and even better on hide. They easily hold .5MOA out to 400 (farthest I’ve shoot it).

I gave up on Partitions long ago. Couldn't get them to shoot worth crap in several proven rifles (60gr .224's were the worst).

Don't give up on them. They may work when you think they won't. When they work, they work.

If you never try them, you'll never know.

IMO.

DF

I suspect the .224 60 grainers didn’t shoot because of too slow of twist rate. My 14” twist 22-250 would shoot them about 3” but my 12” twist guns all shot them very well. Hmmm never tried them in my fast twist AR’s there may be a project there! But I’m already loading 62TTSX in them...

First thought was bullet length of those heavier partitions barrel didn't have enough twist. Discovered that Ballistic tip and accubonds are longer!

115 partition 1.145" 115 bt 1.207" 110 accubond 1.180" 120 partition 1.175"

Partitions can shoot. I remember a three shot group I carried around for a while of a 300 win mag with 200 gr partitions that shot in the .100s"

Or these five shot groups with a 6mm Rem:




If it were me I would use one of the bullets that is currently shooting and you will do fine.

4 pages so you've probably already gotten the right advice, but I've never let a thing like redundancy stop me....
When I encounter this problem (and I have), I isolate one step in the reloading process, be it primer, case, powder, OAL or CTL. and see if I can get an improvement, if so I continue this process, making changes until a notable improvement occurs. It's not guaranteed. but it's worked for me.

What I have learned over the years is that factory barrels tend to like ONE (1) weight of bullet, 2 if you are lucky - unfortunately for you it doesn’t like what you want.
I had / have a 270 barrel I wanted to like 130’s (I wanted to shoot those)... SOB would not shoot any 130 grain bullet under 1.5”... but 140’s grouped at .37”.. so I went to that until I rebarreled it.

Customer barrels however tend to perform well with just about all the weights.. so once rebarreled this often goes away - I’m sure there are exceptions.

IF your barrel is spraying 115-120’s as you indicate the only way to change the “node” is to put a decent amount of weight at the end of the barrel - like installing a browning BOSS and using that to tune the barrel to what you want. Then again cost wise adding a couple hundred gets you a match grade barrel.

Accept it or change it... I’d go with 100 GR TTSX in your shoes, but it really depends on what you want