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Good Ol' Boy Mitt Romney had to try and get us involved today...

What an idiot.

I wonder if he would have broken his silence if a group of Baptists from Oklahoma were killed?

my younger brother got locked up in matamoras aftera bar fight when this was going on, cost me and my other two brothers 3000 in bribes to get him out.

Drug prohibition created this.
Just as alcohol probation the cure is worse than the problem

long history of kookery with lebarons. they have been over there for 100 years, but they come across a lot.

Read "Prophet of Blood: Ervil LeBaron and the Lambs of God" like a 3-way cross between Cliven Bundy, Jim Bakker, and Charley Manson

Dopers in the US paid them to do it. The blood is on there hands. The cartels work for them to provide their highs. Sleep well tonight dopers.

Sounds like they need a modern day Porter Rockwell...

Ghost Recon Wildlands...


...same stories.

I’m

Wrong. Prohibition creates the inflated cost and guaranteed mafia/cartel involvement. Always.

Government can’t effectively regulate drugs and alcohol use nor should they. But they do create the illegal drug market.



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As much as I do not like it I have to agree with you, people will do as they will and government screws everything it puts it's hand to.


From where I sit it is either kill all involved in the trade or get government out of it.

Don't be places you don't belong.




Every country that Spain owned, operated, colonized, influenced, exploited or otherwise futzed around in is a corrupt schitthole. It's just part of the culture. The Phillippines is the only Spanish influenced country that's trying to extract itself from that culture of institutional corruption.

Looks that way. Trump should put a hold on all travel or commerce from USA to Mexico. the cartels are running the show in Mexico and the government is part of it.

The Cartels are Mexico's Deep State.

First off, those folks shouldn't have been there. Mexico is a dangerous place these days. Secondly, if this is not a good reason why we should be cracking down on illegal immigration and sending EVERY DAMN ONE of them back, I don't know what is.

Hard to believe it was “mistaken identity”, seems like that particular Cartel feels it has grown strong enough to subjugate and/or drive out that Mormon community with impunity.

I’m curious to see how the American Mormon church will respond to this. Covert operations?

Chances are there is more to the story. Cartels are drugs and a hit on this scale has to be part of their business. All women and kids taken out sounds like a message to the men folks.

Won’t be long and this will be commonplace here too. It will be excused due to it being part of their “culture “.

"New York Post

Suspect arrested in cartel massacre of Mormons in Mexico

A suspect holding two bound and tied hostages in a vehicle has been arrested in the massacre of nine US citizens – three moms and six children – at the hands of drug cartel members in Mexico, officials said Tuesday.

The unidentified suspect — who was found in the town of Agua Prieta, which borders Arizona – also was in possession of four assault rifles, ammunition and several large vehicles, including a bullet-proofed SUV, according to the Agency for Criminal Investigation for the state of Sonora.

“We are waiting for some more intelligence in order to issue an official statement,” the attorney-general for the neighboring state of Chihuahua, Cesar Peniche Espejel, told Mexico’s Imagen Radio, according to CNN.

The attackers may have mistaken the doomed group’s SUVs for those of a rival gang as the three families from a Mormon community were slaughtered Monday along a rural road between Sonora and Chihuahua.

The victims, dual US-Mexican citizens, were apparently members of a fundamentalist sect separate from the mainstream Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Eight children, some just infants, survived the carnage by hiding in the brush, with some walking several miles to seek help despite their severe injuries.

Peniche Espejel said he believed the “Los Jaguares” cartel — an off-shoot of the Sinaloa cartel — may be responsible for the atrocity, according to CNN.

On Tuesday, a US official said a rival cartel, La Línea, is under focus.

“These very cartels of Sinaloa, after the arrest of Guzman ‘El Chapo’ have suffered fragmentations,” Peniche Espejel said. “They have been growing near the border with the United States and are heavily involved in trafficking of immigrants into the United States and drug-trafficking.”

All of the victims are believed to have been members of the extended LeBaron family, which settled in Sonora decades ago, after the Mormon church in Utah banned polygamy.

Former Foreign Minister Jorge Castañeda told CNN that the family may have been targeted because of its history of conflict with Mexican drug cartels.

“They had stood up to the drug cartels and they did have certain frictions either with the cartels or with neighboring communities over water rights,” said Castañeda, who left office in 2003.


“Their long-standing tensions, and apparently the woman who was driving in the first car that was attacked was an activist. She was someone who was very active in her community, defending her family, her fellow members of the community against cartels, on the issue of water rights,” he said, describing one of the three women killed.

Castañeda also said the larger LeBaron community had been protected by 90 federal police since 2011 because of tensions between the family and cartels.

That protection was withdrawn to some degree by the current government this year, he said, adding that it was unclear whether all 90 officers were withdrawn or just some of them.

The gangs are ruthless and will continue to control Mexico by fear, violence and murder. Their bosses are protected by the mordida culture and the Federales and the local police seem to be in on the scheme. Those few LEOs and elected officials that don't cooperate or tolerate the operations of the drug cartels are eliminated or sometimes avoided, but there are plenty of well-paid accomplices, even in the legal system, and the cartel bosses are usually safe from harm. Not much different from here.

The LDS members are not involved in drugs, but they can be targeted because they are successful and have a strong sense of community, which means that they generally can pay ransom when kidnapped. I suspect that the killings were "incidental", a crime of opportunity, when they happened upon a broken down car. Kids and women are not meaningful lives to the cartel, quite "disposable" in their world. Murder, rape, burning - - methods of intimidation, part of the routine when not much money can be found.

Mormons in Mexico generally are business people, family-oriented and generally do not practice polygamy. Yeah, they have lots of kids. This family has suffered a tremendous loss at the hands of soulless killers. I would think that they could mount a grass-roots effort at retaliation, but they are humans with consciences.

The Mexican government looks the other way. They don't want our help.