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Originally Posted by T_O_M
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RL 7 is the top choice for 40 grain Plastic Tip bullets...


Really?

Hmmm. I have an 8 pound jug o' the shyte and currently nothing to shoot it in. Hmmm.


Lyman 47th edition manual...

33.5 grains of RL 7 with a 40 grainer...

Steve's reloading pages.. http://stevespages.com/224_7_40.html
recommended 33 grains...

In mine.... MV is in excess of 4250....

and then there is a very nice 35 grain Nosler Lead free....the length of the average 50 grain Plastic tips..
it likes that RL 7 charge it seems also..... MV in excess of 4400 fps...

when it hits varmint things, it thinks its an M80 instead of a bullet...


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With a 1 in 14, where's the top end, 50 grainer's?

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
With a 1 in 14, where's the top end, 50 grainer's?


It depends on the length of the bullet, not just the weight.

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Ken, I have shot 60 Nosler Part. in my rifles with no problems... 70 Speer are designed for the 1-14... I also shoot alot of 63 Sierras and 64 gr. WW.. Never had an issue with 55's, but never used the plastic tipped ones only in 50 gr... These do all I need done in that caliber...


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Appreciate all the advice guys, thanks.

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I just worked up a new 22-250 load for a 1-14" Remington 788. with 24" barrel. 36gr of W748 WW brass, Fed 210. 55gr Speer flat base soft point. Next 200 yard range trip will tell if it is a keeper.


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I also have a Stevens 200 in 22-250 that I bought for a “beater” rifle. I did quite a bit of stock work to it to include glass bedding and installed a Timney trigger.
I tried several different powder and bullet combinations and it shot about everything consistently right at MOA but I couldn’t get past the 3/4 mark and then I tried 55 grain Nosler BT’s with IMR 4064 and oh my......groups shrank to 1/2 MOA and stayed there!

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In my Remington M 7 Predator, 1-14 twist, I am currently only using one load.....a 40 grain Nosler BT and 39.5 grains of Varget. Shoots like a laser out past 300 yards, and kills the snot out of a coyote. If I ever quit using that one, I'll go back to a 52 Speer HP and either H380 or W760 powder........................and large rifle primers.

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I’ve always used 55BT in my pdog rifles and H4895. Always go back to 50BT in my coyote rifle. Two years ago switched to 8208 in my yotie rifle. Shoots the same tiny groups but about 100fps faster. 50BT almost never exits on a coyote saving the hide. Just bang flop and a dead coyote. I have had a few dies that just wouldn’t seat a bullet straight in 22/250. Bought a Redding comp seating set and groups size cut down by better than half. I’ve shot and seen shot probably 2-3 dozen coyotes with 50 and 55vmax and 58 .243 vmax....they are hell on pdogs but just fly apart on the fur of coyotes. Often end up shooting another gaping hole in them to finish them off. If I could have only two CF rifles without a doubt one would be a 22/250. I’ve had good luck with varget,4064,8208, and H4895.....but probably 85% of the time I’m using H4895. Good luck!

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Back when I first got my Ruger MkII Sporter I worked up a load with the 50 V-Max and H380 that fall. Worked great. Got it out to shoot next summer when it was 90+ and blew a primer. I pulled everything I had loaded and started over. Out of all the combo's I tried, regular 55 Hornady sp, with or without cannelure, over H4895 turned in the best groups and still does. Best I've found so far with 50 V-Max in this rifle has been Benchmark, but still not as tight as the 55 sp load.

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My most accurate load was a 52 grain Speer hollow point and H4895 powder. Haven't loaded that in years because the coyotes arrived and ate all the groundhogs. If I were starting today, I think I would just go with a Hornady 55 grain soft point and Tac or Big Game.

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Used to have a Rem 700 VS in 22-250, factory 1-14" twist barrel.

load development was pretty easy and quick. Maybe ten different loads evaluated. My goal was to have a 0.75 MOA load. Nothing shot poorly (1.5 MOA ?). Worst groups were with 55 grain boat tails).

50 grainers shot best. Hornady and Sierra 50 grainers shot well ( flat base) + Speed 52 grain flat base up ( but lousy ballistic coef.). Best of the best was the 50 grain Sierra Blitzkings ( and best BC of 50 grainers). Never tried Nosler bt.

Final load: 50 grain Sierra Blitzking over 34.5-35.0 grains IMR 4064. Shot about 0.6 moa. Made some 400+ yard first shot woodchuck hits with it

Wish the barrel was at least 1-12" to shoot 60 grainers. A 1-9" twist would've been best ( for 69 grainers) for better wind drift at longer range.

Final note for any accuracy loading: Get a K&M flash hole uniformer and treat all your brass/primer flat holes with it. Makes a BIG difference for uniformity. Translation?...improved accuracy.


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Between my brother and I, we shot out the barrel on my grandfathers wildcat .22-250 long before it was a factory round. What I learned is it doesn't have to be pushed to the last foot per second. It shoots plenty flat and accurately with loads that are 1-2 grains under that. Really easy to like. Ya need to watch out for barrel heating. Too bad they aren't offered with modern fast twists as a rule. Their only fault is the lighter bullets are pretty wind sensitive. E

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Any one of the classic loads have the potential to work well. A plastic tip bullet from Hornady, Nosler or Sierra in the 50-55 grain weight range. Varget, 4064, 4350 or H380 are all good starting places. Pick a case and primer. I have some loads using Lapua brass and Federal 210 Match primers that shoot great but RP or WW brass and CCI shoot nearly as well. In most of my rifles the Sierra bullet is slightly more accurate than the others.

Like many other calibers, there are so many good combinations that its hard to go wrong.


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55-grain Ballistic Tips over 36 grains of Varget has been my go-to load for 15 years.

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I don't have a load for a 50gr Vmax with Benchmark powder, but I have a decent load for both of them seperately:
50gr Hornady Vmax, 30.0gr Vihtavouri N130
55gr Sierra (1360), 32.6gr Benchmark, GM210M

These shot well in a Ruger 77VT, which I think is also a 1-14T.

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55 grain Nosler BT over 38.9 grains of H380. My first load for prairie dogs. The rifle was a heavy barrel, synthetic stocked Rem 700.


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My tip for load workup after seeing all this is -- concentrate on a good 50 load first and foremost. A hundred each of brand N, H and S, plastic or not. One thing you will also find helpful is to find the throat and fix your OAL to match, hopefully those will still fit in the magazine box.
Once you've gotten a good 50 load, then you'll be able to move up and down the scale to find perfection, which might well be at 50.


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I had an old Mod 700 in 22-250 a long time ago. Bought it used . It shot .75 " all day long and never cared much what powder. IMR 4350 , 4064, H380, H 414. IMR 4895. It never mattered . Bullets 52 -60 gr were fine.


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If the rifle has a 1 in 12 twist....I've settled on 40 grains and 53 grain plastic tip bullets for a lot of my 22.250 shooting..
V Max and Nosler Varmaggeddon....

some one might have an interest, most won't... but off season, winter rainy season, being bored I've been playing with a Steven 200 ion 22.259 that has been getting awfully dusty....

17.5 and 19.5 grains of Blue Dot and 40 gr VMaxes have been producing one hole groups about the size of a dime, for 10 shots at 100 to 150 yds over at the rifle range, when its not raining cats and dogs, and I actually have some time that coordinates with that winter anomaly....guess its easy on the brass also.. because a light neck size with a Lee Neck sizing die, is all the brass needs after the last 10 reloads...

funny thing couple of weeks ago.. fired 10 shots at the target at 200 yds, with a squall coming in... wind kicked up immediately after I finished and before I could go down to retrieve the target, a huge gust of wind, ripped the target right off the target stand and up in the air and away it blew... then it pulled the target stand right out of the ground...

so I'll have to try that again, when the weather is a little less " Oregon in January"

been using 17.5 grains of powder as a load...17.5 grains into 7000 grains in a pound, yields me 400 rounds per pound...
and I bought a couple thousand 40 grain V Maxes for $200.00.. keeps the winter boredom away and doesn't seem to put much wear and tear on the barrel....


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