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Re: SHTF fire starter [Re: TimberRunner] #14261943 11/07/19
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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Trioxane tabs and storm proof matches

Yes. +1

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Re: SHTF fire starter [Re: troutfisher13111] #14262847 11/07/19
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I've used several of the above for fires and all work. The Bic won't light below certain temps though. Anyone know what temp the liquid turns to burnable gas? Keep some matches or other ignition sources close to you. Some in or on each vehicle may save your bacon some day. A time or two they have been handy to me, even though not strictly an emergency. That Boy Scout manual could be a lifesaver. I'm going to give each of my kids' families one for Christmas. I like to give space blankets and such for gifts. This great grandpa is a softie and has a concern for all things family. Be Well, RZ.

Re: SHTF fire starter [Re: troutfisher13111] #14262894 11/07/19
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Fatwood..its free

Re: SHTF fire starter [Re: troutfisher13111] #14263413 11/07/19
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If you can't find trioxane, stop by Wallys and get a box of these things. They're fairly cheap and they light and burn great. One will last 15 min or so and they burn hot. They have them with their heaters.

Bic lighters: I much prefer a Zippo. They'll light no matter how cold it is and you can set it down to use both hands to get things going. You don't have to keep a thumb on the lever. If your fingers are really cold, you can light it on your leg or coat sleeve. You don't need to take off a glove. You can get them for under $15 and you only have to buy 1. They're guaranteed for life.



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Re: SHTF fire starter [Re: Lonerider] #14263473 11/07/19
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Originally Posted by Lonerider
Fatwood..its free

I carry a small sack of fir pitch wood, and a baggie of Vaseline soaked cotton balls.You can get pretty damp wood burning with that. I always carry matches and a lighter. Side note: Nothing burns like red pine needles, and I hardly ever build a fire without em. They go up like gasoline, even if a little damp.

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Re: SHTF fire starter [Re: troutfisher13111] #14263485 11/07/19
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ORION Firestarter / Flares....

it’s like a road flare, gives smoke so people can see you when it’s an emergency - AND they start fires...all good.


https://www.orionsignals.com/product-groups/fire-starters/product/97.html


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Re: SHTF fire starter [Re: Rustyzipper] #14277994 11/13/19
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Originally Posted by Rustyzipper
I've used several of the above for fires and all work. The Bic won't light below certain temps though. Anyone know what temp the liquid turns to burnable gas? Keep some matches or other ignition sources close to you. Some in or on each vehicle may save your bacon some day. A time or two they have been handy to me, even though not strictly an emergency. That Boy Scout manual could be a lifesaver. I'm going to give each of my kids' families one for Christmas. I like to give space blankets and such for gifts. This great grandpa is a softie and has a concern for all things family. Be Well, RZ.

Straight butane vaporizes at about 35*F.


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Re: SHTF fire starter [Re: troutfisher13111] #14279806 11/14/19
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Spotshooter, I also carry the Orion mini flares. I’ve said it before but after falling through ice while skiing I learned all the cute ways to start a fire don’t work when you need it. There’s a difference between bushcrafting for fun and watching your skin freeze while you try to light a fire.

Re: SHTF fire starter [Re: troutfisher13111] #14279835 11/14/19
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^ very true!

I learned my "lesson" ducking hunting on the Bighorn River in December, dumped our canoe w/ an air temperature of around 5 degrees- got the canoe to shore an attempted to start a fire, it was a no go (Bic lighter wouldn't spark, we didn't carry any good tinder, matches would go out as the water was dripping off our clothing, lost fine motor skills much quicker than I had previously thought you would)- we paddled our asses off for ~ 5 river miles and luckily made it back to the truck. I was cold for almost three days straight!

Orion mini flare + bombproof tinder = successful fire under bad conditions

Re: SHTF fire starter [Re: troutfisher13111] #14293539 11/19/19
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Start with the assumption that you’re alone, it’s dark, snowing or raining, and you just broke a leg. Read London’s To Start a Fire to hammer the point home.

I’ve tended to carry a fresh military trioxane bar, but a duraflame log or flare would be nice too.

Bravo

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