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I have an all original pre-64 M70 .300 Win. Mag. barrel that I had removed from an original action (SN 571xxx). However, it is marked 30-06 under the barrel where calibers were usually ID ed by the factory. Was this a common practice on .300 Win. Mag. barrels? thanks
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Does the exposed marking have an R in a circle for registered trademark or the more common "Winchester Trademark" marking? As far as I knew, all 300 Win Mags were marked with the circled R. I have seen a few 300 Win Mags not marked that way recently. I don't know if they are from the Winchester Rollmark stamps getting out on the open market or if they are legit. I will check but think that the 300 Win Mags were unmarked underneath and were the only ones unmarked.
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there is no "R" on the barrel and of course the proof mark is on top vs. the side like most pre-64s. thank you.
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That was one of the last rifles produced. Anything is possible. They could have possibly been trying to use up 30-06 barrels. I'm sure they had a surplus of those that were probably chambered, but could be opened up to 300wm and then roll stamped later???
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Pics would be very helpful.
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According to Rule the 300 Win Mag was one of the few post 1959 barrels to receive an underside marking. That marking was 300M, re-designated from the 300 H&H. Also 300 Win Mag had 6 grooves compared to 30-06 4 groove barrels. I am going to say there has been widespread counterfeiting as far as 300 Win Mags. There were all supposed to be rollmarked with the the circled R in place of the "Winchester Trademark" (Winchester over Trademark) marking.
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According to Rule the 300 Win Mag was one of the few post 1959 barrels to receive an underside marking. That marking was 300M, re-designated from the 300 H&H. Also 300 Win Mag had 6 grooves compared to 30-06 4 groove barrels. I am going to say there has been widespread counterfeiting as far as 300 Win Mags. There were all supposed to be rollmarked with the the circled R in place of the "Winchester Trademark" (Winchester over Trademark) marking. Good stuff mike. I have an original 300wm barrel. I need to check it.
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thanks all for your input. This rifle was correct in all aspects I'm aware of: "458" stamping on action recoil lug, 6 groove barrel, correct front sight ramp, correct stock which I have with narrow checkering and vented pad, rear sight, etc. Just the 06' stamping under barrel which I"m wondering about, although mr. bsa's theory makes sense. I have Whitaker's book but I cannot find any comments he makes on the "R" on the barrel stamping. I don't have Rule's book which is much more detailed, although I've enjoyed and learned much from Whitaker's book over the years.
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I have searched and found two other 571xxx 300 Win Mags with the standard Trademark instead of the circled R. I see the circled R trademark on 575xxx and later guns. Rules book is good but not perfect. The 06 stamping is baffling with 6 grooves as they specify 4 grooves for the 30-06. You just can't walk into a gunshop and find a pre 64 model 70 in 300 Win Mag to compare. They are few and far between.
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