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I mulled it over once upon a time. Then I discovered that soy is supposedly bad for testosterone levels, and that most beans and nuts and cheeses were bad for folks with kidney disease. So I opted for 99% fat free turkey as my main protein source, and haven't looked back.

I've ate enough turkey over the last few years to start strutting and gobbling. Kidney function is holding steady, so I see no reason to change.

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i eat a lot of turkey also. usually de=skinned.

sometimes it's priced cheaper than chicken.

we'll load up and put it in the freezer.

i don't know why turkey doesn't compete more directly with chicken.

and chicken eats a ton of soybeans, etc.


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Turkey also has high levels of tryptophan , which is actually supposed to be very good for you.

Every once in a while I eat some baked fish, but 90% of my protein intake is turkey. My bedtime snack is 30 grams of peanut flour and 30 grams of whey isolate protein powder, stirred together with a spoonful or two of water, to make a high protein, low fat version of peanut butter. My kidneys can handle that, and it is a nice treat at the end of the day.

If you can tolerate dairy, yogurt is a good source of protein, so long as you don't get a brand full of sugar. So is cottage cheese, believe it or not. A lot of bodybuilders end their day with a portion of cottage cheese.

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Originally Posted by auk1124
I mulled it over once upon a time. Then I discovered that soy is supposedly bad for testosterone levels, and that most beans and nuts and cheeses were bad for folks with kidney disease. So I opted for 99% fat free turkey as my main protein source, and haven't looked back.

I've ate enough turkey over the last few years to start strutting and gobbling. Kidney function is holding steady, so I see no reason to change.


Soy is not a testosterone problem, but rather very high in estrogen. Women with estrogen-triggered breast cancers are told to never eat any form of soy. Others are warned to limit soy intake.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
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Soy is not a testosterone problem, but rather very high in estrogen. Women with estrogen-triggered breast cancers are told to never eat any form of soy. Others are warned to limit soy intake.


Thanks for the clarification. I've never been too clear on exactly why, but I know that I've read a lot of opinions that a diet heavy in soy isn't really the best for men. If it jacks up estrogen levels, that explains it.

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Do what most vegetarians do. Eat meat and pretend you don't.

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My dinner has a vegan diet.


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