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Wanted to aske someone to run quickload data for me on a new load im developing for 280 AI.....what info on the bullet and rifle you need?
Thanks in advance
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Provide barrel length, cartridge OAL if you know it, water volume of a fired case (by weight), and the exact bullet you intend to use. Brand of primer and brass are useless.
A powder profile can be run which will give you an idea which powders might be suitable. If you already know which powder you want to use, provide that info and you'll see a more detailed picture of QL's predictions.
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23” 3.33 oal. Federal edge tlr 155 gr. IMR7828 ssc or. RL 22
74.98 grains water
Caliber 280 ackley
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River or anyone else if you could run this for me I’d greatly appreciate it.
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Unfortunately, that bullet is not present in my QuickLOAD database. I haven't updated since 2016 I think, so maybe some else has it. I'm waiting for the newest update which I expect within a couple of months.
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Got ya....never used QuickLOAD before so I wasn’t exactly sure how it worked. Thanks though.
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You just need a few measurements to add this bullet to your database.
Bullet OAL
Bullet Dia
Weight
BC
Boattail base dia
Length of boattail taper
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I’ll work on getting those measurements taken.
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Here's a template I use for those asking for a run through QuickLOAD. The more data you can provide, the better.
Cartridge:
Cartridge over all length:
Bullet touching/jammed into lands at C.O.A.L. (Y/N):
Bullet:
Measured bullet length:
Powder type & charge weight:
Case length:
Case water capacity (measured level to case mouth):
Barrel length:
Barrel twist rate:
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Bullet OAL 1.525
Bullet Dia .283
Weight 155 gr
BC .610. G7 .313
Boattail base dia .233
Length of boattail taper .210
280 ackley
3.33 oal
Not touching lands
Federal edge tlr
Imr 7828 ssc or rl 22
74.98 grains water
24” barrel
Twist 1:9
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Let me know if the data provided will allow this to be run.
Thanks!
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USE THIS DATA AT YOUR OWN RISK
Cartridge : .280 Ack Imp
Bullet : .284, 155, Federal Edge TLR
Useable Case Capaci: 63.210 grain H2O = 4.104 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-22
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.645% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-06.5 98 58.00 2835 2766 49767 11693 97.4 1.276
-05.8 99 58.40 2856 2807 50906 11766 97.6 1.263
-05.2 100 58.80 2876 2847 52072 11836 97.9 1.250
-04.5 101 59.20 2897 2888 53268 11905 98.1 1.237
-03.9 101 59.60 2917 2929 54492 11971 98.3 1.224
-03.2 102 60.00 2938 2970 55750 12035 98.5 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
-02.6 103 60.40 2958 3012 57036 12097 98.7 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
-01.9 103 60.80 2979 3054 58349 12156 98.8 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
-01.3 104 61.20 2999 3096 59692 12213 99.0 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
-00.6 105 61.60 3020 3138 61065 12268 99.1 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 105 62.00 3040 3181 62471 12320 99.3 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
+00.6 106 62.40 3061 3224 63911 12369 99.4 1.140 ! Near Maximum !
+01.3 107 62.80 3081 3267 65388 12416 99.5 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.9 107 63.20 3101 3310 66901 12460 99.6 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.6 108 63.60 3122 3354 68451 12502 99.7 1.105 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2 109 64.00 3142 3398 70041 12541 99.8 1.094 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 105 62.00 3117 3345 69228 12145 100.0 1.104 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 105 62.00 2948 2992 55835 12305 97.3 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
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Looks like QuickLOAD predicts identical charge weights and velocities in this application. USE THIS DATA AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Cartridge : .280 Ack Imp
Bullet : .284, 155, Federal Edge TLR
Useable Case Capaci: 63.210 grain H2O = 4.104 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : IMR 7828 SSC
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.645% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-06.5 97 58.00 2834 2764 49671 11684 95.8 1.263
-05.8 98 58.40 2855 2806 50813 11764 96.1 1.250
-05.2 98 58.80 2877 2848 51983 11841 96.4 1.236
-04.5 99 59.20 2898 2891 53183 11917 96.7 1.223
-03.9 100 59.60 2920 2934 54415 11990 97.0 1.211
-03.2 100 60.00 2941 2977 55677 12061 97.3 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
-02.6 101 60.40 2963 3021 56973 12129 97.5 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
-01.9 102 60.80 2984 3065 58303 12195 97.8 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
-01.3 102 61.20 3006 3109 59668 12259 98.0 1.161 ! Near Maximum !
-00.6 103 61.60 3027 3154 61068 12320 98.2 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 104 62.00 3049 3199 62508 12378 98.4 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
+00.6 104 62.40 3070 3244 63987 12434 98.6 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
+01.3 105 62.80 3092 3290 65506 12487 98.8 1.113 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.9 106 63.20 3113 3335 67064 12537 99.0 1.101 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.6 106 63.60 3135 3382 68663 12584 99.1 1.089 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2 107 64.00 3156 3428 70314 12629 99.3 1.078 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 104 62.00 3133 3377 69154 12279 99.8 1.089 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 104 62.00 2950 2996 56329 12279 95.8 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
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ThAnks Azar....interesting they are that close.
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I didn't know that QuickLoad had AI cartridges listed.
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