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We have a Smith 627 that has been a pain. I tried a variety of loads, mostly wadcutters or semi-wadcutter target loads. Six to 8 inch groups at 25 were the norm. The best load I found went three inches. To say it was disappointing would be an understatement. Anyway, I put it away for a month or so. This weekend we went to the Tusla gun show and I happened upon some Hornady 158g XTPs in their custom load. We use something similar in in the wife's .44 deer carbine with good success, so heck, why not?
I tried them this morning. Three rounds at 25 paces went into an inch. I stopped there. It was sunny this morning, 12 degrees with very little wind. The creek was running good and the cabin was warm and tight. To cap it all off a revolver I had given up on shot great. On the way out of the forest I stopped at a one room mom and pop gas station for coffee, a biscuit, and to pet their retriever. It doesn’t get much better than that.
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I think I would put away a lifetime supply of those xtps right away.
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It's always a relief when you find the magic beans that makes a problem child shine. I've been through that with several rifles and pistols over the years.
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glad you found something that worked. Smith and Wesson revolver quality is hit or miss these days.
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I am dissappointed in this handgun because I had always heard how wonderful N frame Smiths were. I like the way this one handles, but it shot terribly with any cast bullet "target" load I am familiar with. The crown on it looks pretty rough too, but I looked at several at the Tulsa show and they all looked the same. This may be the new normal for Smith and Wesson.
Anyway, I am glad I found at least one load it likes. Apparently the "target" revolver likes to be loaded hot and with jacketed bullets.
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I am dissappointed in this handgun because I had always heard how wonderful N frame Smiths were. I like the way this one handles, but it shot terribly with any cast bullet "target" load I am familiar with. The crown on it looks pretty rough too, but I looked at several at the Tulsa show and they all looked the same. This may be the new normal for Smith and Wesson.
Anyway, I am glad I found at least one load it likes. Apparently the "target" revolver likes to be loaded hot and with jacketed bullets. I figured it was a pre-lock gun. I didn't know they still made 627's. You get it ironed out and it will be a good one, most likely. I've owned two 27's and they were great guns, if overbuilt for the cartridge.
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I am dissappointed in this handgun because I had always heard how wonderful N frame Smiths were. I like the way this one handles, but it shot terribly with any cast bullet "target" load I am familiar with. The crown on it looks pretty rough too, but I looked at several at the Tulsa show and they all looked the same. This may be the new normal for Smith and Wesson.
Anyway, I am glad I found at least one load it likes. Apparently the "target" revolver likes to be loaded hot and with jacketed bullets. I figured it was a pre-lock gun. I didn't know they still made 627's. You get it ironed out and it will be a good one, most likely. I've owned two 27's and they were great guns, if overbuilt for the cartridge. I know several people who love the 27, which is the main reason I decided to try this one. The factory tuned trigger is nice in both single and double action, it just does not shoot as well as I was led to believe. I tried it again this weekend, and while I did not get the stellar groups I got on the first day, it still did alright. The light was not as good and I had trouble seeing the sights so groups were roughly twice what I got last week. I will order some xtps and see if I can duplicate the Hornady factory load or close to it. Might try an after market rear sight as well.
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I am dissappointed in this handgun because I had always heard how wonderful N frame Smiths were. I like the way this one handles, but it shot terribly with any cast bullet "target" load I am familiar with. The crown on it looks pretty rough too, but I looked at several at the Tulsa show and they all looked the same. This may be the new normal for Smith and Wesson.
Anyway, I am glad I found at least one load it likes. Apparently the "target" revolver likes to be loaded hot and with jacketed bullets. I figured it was a pre-lock gun. I didn't know they still made 627's. You get it ironed out and it will be a good one, most likely. I've owned two 27's and they were great guns, if overbuilt for the cartridge. I know several people who love the 27, which is the main reason I decided to try this one. The factory tuned trigger is nice in both single and double action, it just does not shoot as well as I was led to believe. I tried it again this weekend, and while I did not get the stellar groups I got on the first day, it still did alright. The light was not as good and I had trouble seeing the sights so groups were roughly twice what I got last week. I will order some xtps and see if I can duplicate the Hornady factory load or close to it. Might try an after market rear sight as well. I think things will get better if you hang in there with it and you'll end up liking it. Can't beat a big N frame with a stick.
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