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Obscure? The EAA (Tanfoglio) competition models are used by a LOT of the top level competitive shooters (and thousands of lesser shooters as well). The Stock II model I have has been used to win something like ~15 national championships. Talking about sports like USPSA, IPSC, etc. They are very common in Europe (being an Italian gun), and Tanfo's success with their competition models are what pushed CZ into developing their own versions (Shadow, AccuShadow, etc). Anybody familiar with competition shooting knows what a Tanfo is.

They are not at all a carry gun, but the better models are sort of like a Ferrari of the gun world.

would the 10mm he shot the one hole groups with fall into this category of performance?

I suspect that was a bit of an exaggeration. The competition models are pretty accurate, but obviously not that accurate, and if he's got the standard model the accuracy definitely varies more from one gun to another. The competition models apparently use Lothar Walther blanks and are polygonal rifled, but I'm not sure where the standard barrels come from, possibly they are made in house by Tanfo.

Also as I alluded to earlier, the design of the Tanfo pistols makes them great for competition (light slide - low recoil/flip) with the standard service pistol cartridges like 9/40/45, but that same light weight slide makes them less than ideal for full power 10mm. That's more about reliability than accuracy though. For full power 10mm I feel that a Glock 20 or 40 or a 1911 are better choices. (The 1911 because they can be tuned better for powerful loads, and the Glocks because they were designed for it from the start.)

Here's my Stock II just for something to look at. The competition frames like this one all have the square trigger guard, and almost all of them imported into the US are large frames, so you can buy this exact same gun in 10mm as well; you'll pay $1,000-1,200 regardless of caliber. They all need trigger work; I spent about $350 more in trigger parts and got the SA pull down to a hair over 2 lb and the DA is ~5.5 lb. I won't claim one hole groups at 25 yards but it shoots pretty well, fast and flat.
BTW that's hard chrome, not stainless. For a 9mm target pistol these are pretty sweet but definitely are of a different character than a tough-as-nails workhorse like the Glock 20.

thanks for the information, I never knew that Tanfo made competition guns. Yours is a nice looking pistol, the trigger pull at 2 pounds is awesome. I am continuing to upgrade a glock 20 however I realize the trigger will only get so good but it is a good reliable back country capable pistol.

Glad to help.

I agree with the assertion that Glock triggers lack finesse.I got tired of it in the G20 and replaced the connector with a 3.5 unit. This was a tremendous difference. The trigger pull in the G43 was painful for my wife to use due to sharp edges and and a noxious stacking of the trigger pull.Replacing the connector and filing sharp edges off the trigger . I found it unpleasant to shoot also due to the heavy stacking and the sharp unfinished edges. It was well woth the upgrade. G20 pull resulted in a smooth 2stage pull that was light and easy to control.

https://www.glockstore.com/Ultimate-Trigger-Stop

try one of these as well.

Yondering, that's a magnificent pistola.
I might be forced to buy one.

If I were doing it again, I'd surf the Brian Enos forum classifieds for a used one. If you can find one with the trigger already slicked up, that's worth a bunch. They definitely fit the model of an Italian product - high quality but they each have their own personality and the stock triggers are generally not what you'd expect from an American pistol.

Thanks.

bwinters,

For your stated intended use, there is nothing wrong with the Glock trigger. I prefer their 5 lb trigger and have that installed in all my Glocks. You do not need or neccesarily want a competition light trigger in your Glock field gun.

The best thing you can do is fire and dry fire (as Yondering suggested) your Glock to get used to that trigger. It will serve you well. Also, nobody has mentioned the reset of the trigger after the first round is fired. Learning the Glocks trigger reset and taking advantage of that design will enhance your speed and accuracy for subsequent shots.

Finally, as a semi auto some bullet profiles will feed better than others. Gear your search towards 100% reliability. Glock barrels are a bit more generous than most aftermarket barrels in the chamber area, as they are geared towards reliability. Aftermarket barrels, such as my KKM 6 in Ive installed on my Glock 20, although tighter than Glock chamber wise, can be throated at the feed ramp at KKM if requested, to enhance the use of WFN hard cast bullets, like the Montana Bullet Works bullet I use. Using Longshot powder, out of the standard barrel I get around 1150 fps, and get around 1300 put of the 6 in KKM. I also use a 22# recoil spring.

So, although a G40 will give you a slightly longer sight radius and the ready availability to use an optic, I choose to go with a G20 with a 6 in barrel for the extra ballistics without the extra weight of the longer slide of the G40.

Ive carried Glocks for over 30 years and have used them to defend myself and others in deadly confrontations. Set up correctly with the right ammo and when you learn the weapon, they are reliable. Are they the most accurate platform for the 10mm? No, but they are accurate enough.

Excellent post. Thank you for taking the time to post that info!

Great post.

I have been researching on getting a can (suppressor)

I have considered the 10MM. I use a 50 GI on one G21 and a 9" Dasan barrel and other parts, springs, etc on a 45 super on another G21. The 9" and the 50 are both quite "shootable". A Technical term. A hot 45 ACP in the 21 w/9" barrel is a pussycat. My theory is The forward weight has leverage the short barrel doesn't and of course the springs and guide made for greater control of the slide speed all work together to mitigate the recoil forces. The 45 super loads so far show no hammering of the slide to frame. All this makes me think that a 2" longer barrel in the G20 might be a great advantage and still manageable. 2" extended shouldn't be a holster problem with an open ended one. YMMV of course. Don't try it if you don't wish to. Be Well, Rustyzipper.

If you're open to suggestions, I would really suggest just going with suppressed 9mm instead of trying to suppress a 10mm pistol.

There's a good argument for "suppress all the things", and I don't completely disagree with that, however, if you are looking for a similar experience to suppressed 9mm, I think you'd be very disappointed in a suppressed 10mm. The sound levels are still fairly high, and there can be a lot of powder particle blowback (although that depends on the load). I consider it more like suppressing a 223 AR15 - it does reduce the noise quite a bit, but for more than a shot or two you'll likely want to use hearing protection and dealing with the gas blowback is a consideration. In fact, in my experience my suppressed 223 and other AR15 calibers are quieter than suppressed 10mm. I don't even bother using a suppressor on my 10mm any more.

Even 40 S&W is not that great suppressed, with generally a fairly sharp sound unless you use the suppressor wet. Suppressed 9mm with subsonics is by far the most pleasant, easiest, and quietest choice out of these options, and also the cheapest with the most suppressor options.

Youndering,

I apologize, I got a text last night about the same time and unintentionally posted what I was texting someone else. To long a day.

anyone know what the standard recoil spring tension is in the gen 4 G20? I probably need to get a spare anyway.

!!

Jimmyp-

The factory dual spring set up on the Gen 4 is 17 lbs. Underwood loads through the gun and the empties fly 30 feet! If you buy another spring, get a 20 or 22#, keep the factory set up as a spare. You can still run regular factory 10mm through the gun as well as heavier stuff with those heavier springs.


Manny