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Is that an aluminum handguard on the AA or is it carbon or fiberglass?
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My brother in law tried the Frontier brand 70 or 75 grain i forget.
The bullets are to hard it seems they just pass thru.
He uses a thermal and went back to the 6.5 Grendel and 100 grain controlled chaos bullets.
Those Frontier bullets would not plant a coyote at a 100 yards.
It gets costly when you have to shoot 3 or more times.
But as for the caliber/brand rifle i am glad we have the choices we do. Interesting, I have some of the 556 75 gr bthp Frontiers. Think they'd open up on antelope and deer?
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I think they should work but have not tried them myself.
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I think they should work but have not tried them myself. I'd think so too. Thanks
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Is that an aluminum handguard on the AA or is it carbon or fiberglass? According to this review it's a "synthetic handguard." https://gunblast.com/Alexander-65Hunter.htmHere, we are looking at one of Alexander Arms' latest versions of their 6.5 Grendel rifle; the eighteen inch Hunter. The Hunter model is, in my opinion, the perfect configuration for an all-around 6.5 Grendel rifle. The barrel is a fluted matte-black stainless steel with a medium profile, .700 inch at the muzzle, offering plenty of stiffness for fine accuracy, without being excessively heavy. The bore is button-rifled one turn in 7.5 inches. The muzzle is threaded 9/16x24 TPI for the attachment of a suppressor or brake, if desired. The barrel is free-floated inside a smooth two-inch diameter synthetic handguard which measures approximately twelve inches in length. There is one three-inch section of accessory rail at the forward end of the handguard, which may be removed or relocated every ninety degrees around the tubular circumference.
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YMMV, but if I were spending $1,000 on a modern AR, it sure wouldn't be in that configuration. That would have been a nice setup in ~2005 but seems a bit dated now, with better options available elsewhere for the external bits like handguard, stock, etc. IMO, the Grendel has been around long enough now that AA doesn't really have any exclusive corner on the market any more. Huh, well, yeah, then my mileage does vary.
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My brother in law tried the Frontier brand 70 or 75 grain i forget.
The bullets are to hard it seems they just pass thru.
He uses a thermal and went back to the 6.5 Grendel and 100 grain controlled chaos bullets.
Those Frontier bullets would not plant a coyote at a 100 yards.
It gets costly when you have to shoot 3 or more times.
But as for the caliber/brand rifle i am glad we have the choices we do. Interesting, I have some of the 556 75 gr bthp Frontiers. Think they'd open up on antelope and deer? That should be a Hornady 75 bthp. I have not bought new in years since I had 10K on hand when I quit shooting competition. Lets just say we keep mags full of a load with the 75bthp for general all around use and I've never had a problem with it from coyotes and coons to deer and pigs. Can't think I've used it much past 300 or so yards though, longer 223 shots on deer I single load the old 75 amax.
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Haven't read the whole thread but I see no reason a 95 grain V-Max wouldn't work at Grendel velocities on deer or similar sized animals.
Maybe even a 100 grain Ballistic Tip or 120 Sierra. You are correct - There is also no reason for Grendel guys to say it’s better than the 6.8 SPC or the 300 Hamr... but then again they weren’t being honest with themselves to begin with 
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Haven't read the whole thread but I see no reason a 95 grain V-Max wouldn't work at Grendel velocities on deer or similar sized animals.
Maybe even a 100 grain Ballistic Tip or 120 Sierra. You are correct - There is also no reason for Grendel guys to say it’s better than the 6.8 SPC or the 300 Hamr... but then again they weren’t being honest with themselves to begin with Get over your bad self. Do you really want to put yourself in the same group with dla? It's hard to respect the opinion of someone who has to piss on a particular cartridge because they prefer something else. These "Chevy vs Ford" / "my cartridge is better than your cartridge" arguments are pretty juvenile, and demonstrate a general ignorance about the topic. Any of those cartridges, and a bunch of others, work fine on deer sized animals with the right bullets, and I don't think I've seen anyone here worth listening to that's saying the Grendel is the only right choice. On the other hand, there seem to be several fanboys like yourself of other cartridges, specifically the 6.8, who think they have to talk crap about the Grendel or 300 Blk or whatever else doesn't fit their preferences.
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Is that an aluminum handguard on the AA or is it carbon or fiberglass? According to this review it's a "synthetic handguard." The nice thing about the synthetic handguards is they are much warmer in the Winter. AL is such a good conductor, it sucks heat right out of your hand. I have one AR with a fiberglass HG and I like it, but it is slippery compared to a cheese grater or an A2 HG.
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My brother in law tried the Frontier brand 70 or 75 grain i forget.
The bullets are to hard it seems they just pass thru.
He uses a thermal and went back to the 6.5 Grendel and 100 grain controlled chaos bullets.
Those Frontier bullets would not plant a coyote at a 100 yards.
It gets costly when you have to shoot 3 or more times.
But as for the caliber/brand rifle i am glad we have the choices we do. Interesting, I have some of the 556 75 gr bthp Frontiers. Think they'd open up on antelope and deer? That should be a Hornady 75 bthp. I have not bought new in years since I had 10K on hand when I quit shooting competition. Lets just say we keep mags full of a load with the 75bthp for general all around use and I've never had a problem with it from coyotes and coons to deer and pigs. Can't think I've used it much past 300 or so yards though, longer 223 shots on deer I single load the old 75 amax. Appreciate the feedback. If I am remembering correctly it's a slightly different 75 made a bit shorter but generally the same thing. But I may be thinking of something else. The same btsp used in the TAP line. I will try to follow-up...
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The Hornady 123 GR SST take 2200fps Not so much. The 123gr SST is a relatively lightly constructed bullet that has a good sectional density and will open up and perform well down past 2200fps. That's what makes it effective against medium-sized big game: opens up pretty easily and has enough SD/mass behind to keep on driving. Not as deeply as, say, a Nos partition, but good on thin skinned / medium game.. It doesn't require high velocity to do its work. Lots of cartridges like that in past times. Good morning BSA. The images above came out of the 6.5 Grendel Reloading book, vol. 2 which is focused on hunting loads. Any idea how long each animal took to expire? Range? Animals shot to tagged ratio? No? Then you don't know shlt about how the cartridge performs. When the bullet drops below 2000-2200fps, it is going to pencil through like a target arrow. It might expand, but it isnt a huge bullet to start with. Kills slowly unless shot placement is perfect. The 6.5 Grendel is a shlt hunting cartridge much past 200 yards. Sure, which is why the 170gr RNSP out of the .30-30 (MV~2200fps, 100ydvel~1900fps) is such a pathetic deer killer... in your mind. Outside your mind, in reality, the .30-30 170gr RNSP is fine deer medicine. It just happens to use a bulet designed to suit the cartridge and gun parameters. Oh, why bother? My 13YO daughter has more time behind a AR15 in 6.5Grendel and has killed more game with it than has dla.
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