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Originally Posted by slymule
General Grabber AT2's or ATX. Read the reviews, you wont find a bad one. They excel on snow and icy roads. Its the only tires I buy anymore. I'm getting ready to put them on my 6th vehicle. 60,000 mile warranty and cheaper priced than almost all the big name tires. I run mine in the oilfield over the crappiest rocky roads you've ever seen and they hold up great. Also pull my camper around alot, they work great for towing, but they excel on snow packed icy roads. I very seldon have to use 4x4 with these tires on. For example I can usually drive 10mph faster in two wheel drive when i know others are crawling down the road in 4x4, it blows my mind how good they stick to the road. Read the reviews, price them, BUY THEM, and thank me later.


What vehicle do you have them on?


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just put these on our '05 Taco truck......

Goodyear Ultra Terrains......LT265-75x16

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1st flat w/the Exo Grapplers. No idea what it was but it when through a lug in the center of the tread pattern. I'm thinking something Ag related.


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I just put a set of studded Nokian Hakka 9s on my 2019 4Runner. I also run studded cooper m and s on my 14 Duramax I use to plow. They have been awesome.

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Just got the wife a new F150 and we had the dealership pull the Michelin primacy (new) and put on what is currently a local favorite which was falken A/T3W. We had the michelin primacy on her last F150 (2018) and we were not overly impressed even when they were new. They were basically shot by 42k and I had been rotating them.

We've had the truck and Falken tires for a week today. Quite a mix of winter driving already, heavy wet slush covered roads, ice, unplowed fresh snow (around 6"). So far we are very impressed.


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[quote=JGray]Well, I took my Ram 2500 diesel in to rotate the Cooper ST Maxx's one last time and they told me it was time to replace them. At 37-38k, I probably could get to 40k but it's about time to start driving in snow and they're pretty thin. I went with the Nitto Exo's and they do drive nice on the pavement - notably quieter than the ST Maxx. I'll hopefully get them in the snow soon...


Curious to get your take regarding stability when you hook up something heavy as well as snow traction.

Can't report on towing until spring but have been in the snow daily for the past week. Mostly hard pack on pavement but spent today in the hills in about 6". Couple of trips over a steep / windy pass that has always required 4wd in similar conditions with other tires was easy in 2wd. So far would have to say they're better in snow than anything I've had previously.

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Originally Posted by tikkanut

just put these on our '05 Taco truck......

Goodyear Ultra Terrains......LT265-75x16

Watch for DTD Black Friday sale.........

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My brother just put a set of those on his Taco - seems happy with them so far.

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For winter use, BFG Commercial TA Traction. Winter rated, great traction in snow with my '97 Dodge CTD. LT235/85 x16 size, used this size for fewer revs/mile because it's slightly taller than the 245/75 plus it's easier to put chains on (especially on the front or so I think). I've chained up all 4 tires for greasy mud (ugh the worst) and a number times for icy or snowy roads. Very soft compound with an aggressive tread that is also heavily siped. Won't last 20K of regular driving.


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Originally Posted by Shag
Looking for the best winter truck tire a guy can get. Will be hunting Idaho and driving back and fourth over White Pass Wa. Gotta grab on snow and ice! Will need to haul a 26’ trailer at some point. 3/4 Chevy. Thanks for any advice!


Lot of variation in what winter tire can mean. Snow with higher water content acts different than snow with lower water content. Vehicle weight .. contact pressure .. changes the picture as well. Tires that specialize in one kind of winter driving may suck the worst in other kinds of winter driving.

The best all-around setup is a gnarly mud tire that is studded. The mud lugs work very well in wet snow. Tires with tighter tread will clog with ice and become very slick. However, in drier snow or packed snow / ice the big lugs aren't so great .. which is where the studs come in. If you can't run studs, then having a gnarly mud tire siped comes pretty close to being as all-around effective.

When I was driving jeeps I mostly went with Interco TSL radials that were siped. I also ran SSRs which were factory kerfed which worked almost as well .. nominally the same width, but actually wider, so I didn't quite have the contact pressure or traction.

After moving to lighter trucks (Frontier, Tacoma) I switched to Toyo Open Country MTs. They may be a bit much tire for my trucks' weight but they work very well. My first choice today assuming you match load range to your truck.

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Originally Posted by Shag
Looking for the best winter truck tire a guy can get. Will be hunting Idaho and driving back and fourth over White Pass Wa. Gotta grab on snow and ice! Will need to haul a 26’ trailer at some point. 3/4 Chevy. Thanks for any advice!


Lot of variation in what winter tire can mean. Snow with higher water content acts different than snow with lower water content. Vehicle weight .. contact pressure .. changes the picture as well. Tires that specialize in one kind of winter driving may suck the worst in other kinds of winter driving.

The best all-around setup is a gnarly mud tire that is studded. The mud lugs work very well in wet snow. Tires with tighter tread will clog with ice and become very slick. However, in drier snow or packed snow / ice the big lugs aren't so great .. which is where the studs come in. If you can't run studs, then having a gnarly mud tire siped comes pretty close to being as all-around effective.

When I was driving jeeps I mostly went with Interco TSL radials that were siped. I also ran SSRs which were factory kerfed which worked almost as well .. nominally the same width, but actually wider, so I didn't quite have the contact pressure or traction.

After moving to lighter trucks (Frontier, Tacoma) I switched to Toyo Open Country MTs. They may be a bit much tire for my trucks' weight but they work very well. My first choice today assuming you match load range to your truck.

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This is what I have discovered. We have 2 miles of not very often plowed county road to go to get to the highway. It can close overnight with drifting snow. AT's worked ok until the snow got too deep and/or the snow became like fine powder. On packed snow and ice they are better than MT's. However I put Firestone Destination MTs on our suburban and had them heavily siped. They can dig out of just about anything and with the siping they grip hard pack snow and ice well. Auto 4 helps a lot too. We drive it back to MN quite often in the winter and never had a problem.

The only times we have ever been stuck with them was when the first set was almost worn out and I got high centered on snow with ice on the bottom and last year with the new set when the snow was so deep the burb was pushing it with the bumper. It still made it about 20 yards into the drift though. On backing up the back end of the burb ended up over the edge of the road above a creek so there was no traction to get. Had to be pulled out then.

We do have studs on our diesel pick-up, but the burb is better balanced so does better in the snow.

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Dedicated snow tires are best, IMO. I have used both the studless (Blizzak) and studded (Firestone Winterforce) and both were better than any AT tire. The Blizzak are better on serious ice but both were good on snow or mixed snow/ice

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