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Dually, got it.

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Originally Posted by logcutter
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Logcutter, does DRW mean Drive Rear Wheel?



It means..Dual Rear Wheels



are you now saying a dually is as good in snow...and on ice as a single ….bob

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
2WD are worthless here.

Yep. I wouldn't be without 4 WD. We're starting to shop for my wife's next vehicle, as her old Grand Caravan is getting pretty tired, and we're moving farthe north here shortly. Gotta do 4 WD.


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Originally Posted by logcutter


The mini van doesn't do well in deep snow for obvious reasons,clearance,but my 2WD DRW 1-ton can do it up to the bumper as my other truck pictured did or better said,just as deep as your 4X4 pictured..

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You are driving through mountain fluff.

Try some hard pack drifts and get back to me.

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The 2 wheel's run a lot cheaper, but I'd hate to without an all wheel drive car here.


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Originally Posted by SamOlson

Originally Posted by logcutter


The mini van doesn't do well in deep snow for obvious reasons,clearance,but my 2WD DRW 1-ton can do it up to the bumper as my other truck pictured did or better said,just as deep as your 4X4 pictured..

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You are driving through mountain fluff.

Try some hard pack drifts and get back to me.



plus it looks deeper than it is....cause that truck has been lowered...….bob

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Three thing jump out from that video.

Almost every vehicle in that video is a 4wd.
And they are beating the crap out of them to prove something.

People think 4wd is absolutely a must if you
leave pavement. The opposite has been known for decades.

Four wheel drive is much better off road.


My first car was a 67 Impala, 3 speed, 283, posi.
I drove that thing everywhere, the exhaust got ripped
for often. All season tires, it went through the snow with no trouble.


But, you needed momentum, you had to feather the throttle, and
lug the engine. You had to be very careful of where you parked or stopped.

There used to be a big market here for 2wd work trucks.
Bosses bought them for employees, cheaper to buy, run, maintain.
Bosses weren't there in a snowstorm when you were stuck in a parking lot.
Or someone's yard. Or, stopped on an unplowed hill, and cant get going.
That market is gone. Most finally got tired of the hassels.

Used 2wd here is seriously devalued.

But, I honestly go to 2wd in the snow as soon as I get on the road, moving.
A little slipping curbs my heavy foot, and I have more control
in a skid with free turning steers.


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I bought a Dually to carry my truck camper back in the hills..I wanted stability on side hills because truck campers are heavy and tall..Yes,I wanted a 4X4 but people with older 4X4's think there trucks are made out of gold..Or if it's a diesel,there worn out already with very high miles...So I found a great truck but it was 2WD but taken care of immaculately...For the price I couldn't pass even as a 2WD knowing it will work just fine in the snow/mud and weather if I do my part..

So I bought this 2WD..Plenty of ground clearance and only 10ft to the to of the ladder rack..Haven't stuck her yet but I do carry V-Bar chains and a rear locker is on my Christmas list..

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they may be 4wd....but they are not using it....2wd nationals or whatever....that's the point ..they are trashing the truck.....to go where 4wd would be a lot easier...bob

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When I moved to Texas I had my truck plugged in once (battery was getting old). The neighbor was kinda wondering what I was doing. I said it was a Chevy Volt.😂

The last pickup I had in Texas was a Nissan Frontier. 2wd. That’s all I needed. I didn’t pull anything or haul anything anymore. When I moved back to ND I traded it post haste for a Z71.

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Originally Posted by BobMt


they may be 4wd....but they are not using it....2wd nationals or whatever....that's the point ..they are trashing the truck.....to go where 4wd would be a lot easier...bob


I guess the point is,a 2WD can work in those circumstances we sometimes get into back in the hills..Also the point,not everyone needs a 4X4 for things like Sam does...So everyone has to decide for there selves if the extra maintenance/extra cost and extra lack of fuel mileage is worth buying a 4X4 they rarely use when a 2WD will do atleast,99% of it.

Not knocking 4X4's at all, just saying a 2WD can handle way more than it is given credit for.

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Originally Posted by SamOlson
We have dirt here that becomes extremely greasy when wet. It's called gumbo and believe it or not 4WD does way better(than 2WD) when dealing with it.


Some folks never so much as park in a grassy field.


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plus it looks deeper than it is....cause that truck has been lowered...….bob


Ha Ha..I ain't brown...LOL

And the truck ain't been lowered...It actaully has more clearance than my sons Chevy 2500 HD 4X4..

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I had to drive the front up on a badger hole to get out the door...

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Good looking rig LC.


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Originally Posted by logcutter
Originally Posted by BobMt


they may be 4wd....but they are not using it....2wd nationals or whatever....that's the point ..they are trashing the truck.....to go where 4wd would be a lot easier...bob


I guess the point is,a 2WD can work in those circumstances we sometimes get into back in the hills..Also the point,not everyone needs a 4X4 for things like Sam does...So everyone has to decide for there selves if the extra maintenance/extra cost and extra lack of fuel mileage is worth buying a 4X4 they rarely use when a 2WD will do atleast,99% of it.

Not knocking 4X4's at all, just saying a 2WD can handle way more than it is given credit for.



My 2017 F-150 4WD four door, with a 5.0 averages 19 MPG, and that's including short and long trips. My wife has a 2017 Explorer 2WD that only gets about 24MPG, so I figure I'm doing pretty good. I've only owned one 4WD pickup that had issues with the 4WD, and that was a 1979 one. The last 3 Fords I've had with 4WD have not had to have any extra maintenance done to them because they were 4WD. in this age of the technology we have, 4WD pickups are pretty much equal to the 2WD's.

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Originally Posted by logcutter
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plus it looks deeper than it is....cause that truck has been lowered...….bob


Ha Ha..I ain't brown...LOL

And the truck ain't been lowered...It actaully has more clearance than my sons Chevy 2500 HD 4X4..

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I had to drive the front up on a badger hole to get out the door...



that was just a jab at you....ha...….I will say you are one hard headed guy....have a good one.....bob

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Uh yeah, minivans have front wheel drive. They do fine in snow most of the time.

Rear wheel 2WD pickups are the squirrliest vehicles on the road . Worthless.

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A 2wd is just a highway hauler, not that those can’t have their place. We get no snow down here, so they are fine for road duty. Same goes for 2wd vs Awd cars. Few Awd here. But... nearly every outdoorsman has and needs 4x4. Land is often unforgiving off the blacktop. Ideally, a guy has a winch and two sets of wheels/tires, being ATs for warm weather and mud tires for the rest.


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In warm weather areas, 4wd probably not really needed very often so that makes total sense.

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Originally Posted by ClearAirTurbulence

Good looking rig LC.


Thanks..Sorry I sold that one and just a couple years ago..I had replaced or rebuilt everything from stem to stern on that one..Woulda headed out to the Arizona desert without hesitation, to get out of this nasty weather..

Loved that truck and 2WD to boot..LOL

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