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Originally Posted by Calvin
Things are pretty good. Wouldn’t change much.


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1 Declare bankruptcy , repudiate the debt (we are actually bankrupt)
2 Abolish the Federal Reserve
3 Return to real money (gold, silver, platinum, palladium, etc. certificates)

And let the chips fall

And if you would give me a fourth edict. I would exempt modest homesteads from taxation and institute progressive property taxes on the huge land holding entities. The latter would be high enough that it would end the holding of 100s of thousands of acres by a single family or whatever corporation they would try to hide behind.


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Saw this t’other day, but didn’t have time to read it all or make a reply.
First couple things to me to be fixed are pretty easy. Number three is a little tougher, just because there are 3 or 4 that I’d want, and picking the most important makes it harder.
First off, as many others have said, is fixing immigration. Either you’re here legally, or you’re gone. Anybody knowingly hires illegals faces stiff fines and or serious jail time.
You get deported once. If you’re caught again you get to work building a border wall in circumstances miserable enough that you won’t want to come back.
Legal immigration would be based on low numbers of thoroughly vetted candidates with skills.
Second I would clean out our schools and colleges of leftist instructors who don’t teach but indoctrinate. Teach and give youngsters the tools they’ll need to hold down jobs and better themselves. Allow them to study the issues at hand, and make an informed decision based on facts, not feelings. Decisions based on emotion are often wrong, and usually make the situation worse.
Like I said there’s several things that need fixed last, so to pick just one makes it tougher.
I want to guarantee folks right to defend themselves without government interference. I’d want to fix the news media, and make journalism an honest profession again. Voter laws making election fraud much harder to pull off and much more costly to those caught doing it.
Term limits on government “servants”. The only government paid career is military service, everybody else gotta get an honest job after a specific amount of time. End special interest lobbying too.
If you get the money and the power away from government service, it will clean itself out without the corruption and waste we currently have.
One things certain. If we can’t fix our demographics and get intelligent, informed voters who take an interest in who’s running the country, we’re doomed.
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Universal military draft..........I dont get it.



Why would I want a military full of a pile of jack legs who dont want to be there?


Just to teach these whippersnappers a lesson?


Gawd almighty......who in the hell is gonna pay for all that?????





Be some of the best money ever spent, they'd go in young spoiled brats and come out responsible men. Imagine this Country full of men again.


How do you figure?

First a draft anytime other than war time is as UnAmerican as you can get!

Second forcing someone to do something they don't want to rarely delivers the desired results one is looking for.

Three How would you pay all those salaries?

Four What if your plan did actually work and lets say half or more of them decide they wanted to re-enlist? That is not sustainable. So do you give them the boot? Do you give the boot to more senior enlisted to make room for the ranks below? Again who is funding this??????

Five the Military does not make a person who they are. At best it refines those that already had the work, behavior, and ethical values. Those very few that do make some changes may or may not last after time of service.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Seafire
Without reading the entire thread and anyone else's desires or opinions..

1. No More DemocRAT Communists.

2. NO more illegal immigrants, and they ones here sent home in the process...

3. NO MORE drugs, which includes legalization of friggin Dope/ Marijuana...


How do you plan to get rid of the Democrats? Outlaw the party, or just kill them all?

How well did prohibition work? How the current drug war working out?


Aren't we Mr Positive this morning....

Those are the problems, is it easier to do a solution and see it thru or just complain about it not working?

as far as your question on the DemocRATS.... if you notice, I said DemocRAT COMMUNISTS..
the democrats aren't democrats anymore, they are COMMUNISTS,,, did you ever study communism in school? or the writings of Karl Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao's Little Red Book? what the democRATS pull daily are right out of the communist play book... so yeah, if they are communists, you treat them the way communists need to be treated....communists have no problem killing you and your family to further their ideology and agenda, whether it is killing outright, or bleeding you to death one drop of blood at a time...so why are you hesitant in return in dealing with them....

Guess you missed the Cold War, and having any knowledge about their escapades elsewhere... or are you the type that believe in the old adage, "it can't happen here"?? well its happening here, daily....

if you like what the leftist have turned this nation into, then enjoy comrade....

they have no problem killing people like me, so why should I look at them any differently?

I'm not going to be in the boat... when they come for me, I am going to cower and feel the emptiness of "I did nothing to stop them"...



I know all about the Cold War, it was my war. I was a short distance from Soviet airspace when the Wall came down, about 2-3 minutes flight away from the nearest IRMB's which most likely include us in their target list. I had a front row seat to the Cold War in a role requiring intense study and intimate knowledge of the Soviet threat. I doubt you can say the same......you'd be wrong.....

I'm well aware that Neo-Post-Modernism is just recycled Marxism, the same idea's with new labels. I'm just wondering what your solution would actually look like?

How many Americans do you supposed meet your definition, and how would you rid us of this ideology without shredding the Constitution?


The communist ideology tells a revolutionary, to use the opponents own laws against them...

Personally I think you deal with communists within, the same way you'd deal with foreign communists...

If you served as you say, then you should recall the oath ALL of us took... to defend our nation against ALL enemies... Foreign and Domestic..
what part of that oath do you think you might need clarification on, in regards to communists?

you play by your opponents rules, or you lose....

most of your posts on this thread seem to question the answers of everyone else...so INSTEAD of asking them for clarification or how they implement them...
why don't you tell us what you'd implement?.. turning someone else's opinions into a question back at them is another one of those Sal Alinsky tricks...
starts to make me question your motives here....


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller

You’re King of the United States, you get three things to change...without challenge or revocation, ever. What would they be?.



Abolish the monarchy.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Pharmseller

You’re King of the United States, you get three things to change...without challenge or revocation, ever. What would they be?.



Abolish the monarchy.



wondered when some one was going to say that...…..we did kinda have a war over that...….bob

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Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Seafire
Without reading the entire thread and anyone else's desires or opinions..

1. No More DemocRAT Communists.

2. NO more illegal immigrants, and they ones here sent home in the process...

3. NO MORE drugs, which includes legalization of friggin Dope/ Marijuana...


How do you plan to get rid of the Democrats? Outlaw the party, or just kill them all?

How well did prohibition work? How the current drug war working out?


Aren't we Mr Positive this morning....

Those are the problems, is it easier to do a solution and see it thru or just complain about it not working?

as far as your question on the DemocRATS.... if you notice, I said DemocRAT COMMUNISTS..
the democrats aren't democrats anymore, they are COMMUNISTS,,, did you ever study communism in school? or the writings of Karl Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao's Little Red Book? what the democRATS pull daily are right out of the communist play book... so yeah, if they are communists, you treat them the way communists need to be treated....communists have no problem killing you and your family to further their ideology and agenda, whether it is killing outright, or bleeding you to death one drop of blood at a time...so why are you hesitant in return in dealing with them....

Guess you missed the Cold War, and having any knowledge about their escapades elsewhere... or are you the type that believe in the old adage, "it can't happen here"?? well its happening here, daily....

if you like what the leftist have turned this nation into, then enjoy comrade....

they have no problem killing people like me, so why should I look at them any differently?

I'm not going to be in the boat... when they come for me, I am going to cower and feel the emptiness of "I did nothing to stop them"...



I know all about the Cold War, it was my war. I was a short distance from Soviet airspace when the Wall came down, about 2-3 minutes flight away from the nearest IRMB's which most likely include us in their target list. I had a front row seat to the Cold War in a role requiring intense study and intimate knowledge of the Soviet threat. I doubt you can say the same......you'd be wrong.....

I'm well aware that Neo-Post-Modernism is just recycled Marxism, the same idea's with new labels. I'm just wondering what your solution would actually look like?

How many Americans do you supposed meet your definition, and how would you rid us of this ideology without shredding the Constitution?


The communist ideology tells a revolutionary, to use the opponents own laws against them...

Personally I think you deal with communists within, the same way you'd deal with foreign communists...

If you served as you say, then you should recall the oath ALL of us took... to defend our nation against ALL enemies... Foreign and Domestic..
what part of that oath do you think you might need clarification on, in regards to communists?

you play by your opponents rules, or you lose....

most of your posts on this thread seem to question the answers of everyone else...so INSTEAD of asking them for clarification or how they implement them...
why don't you tell us what you'd implement?.. turning someone else's opinions into a question back at them is another one of those Sal Alinsky tricks...
starts to make me question your motives here....


You mentioned defending the Constitution, against all enemies foreign and domestic, and claim I should "ask for clarification", let me remind you of my original reply to you:

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How do you plan to get rid of the Democrats? Outlaw the party, or just kill them all?

How well did prohibition work? How the current drug war working out?


I began by asking for clarification about how your plan would work. Outlawing political parties conflicts with Amendment 1, and the second option, well, just about all the remaining Amendments.

I find it interesting how you didn't answer my questions regarding how you would do it within the bounds of our Constitution? Of course, demonstrating the contradictory nature of your position was the point of my post. We are dealing with complex issues, and the simple feel good silver bullets proposed my many in this thread are not the answers most think they are.

As for what I would do, in the "I'm king" realm, I already mentioned one, give juries the power to convict any prosecutor who brings an unconstitutional case before them with a mandatory sentence equal to the maximum sentence that could of been imposed on the defendant, with all terms to be served consecutively. I'm sure there are problems with this idea, so please, feel free to poke holes in it. I'd like to devise an effective method to hold lawmakers accountable when they vote for or pass clearly unconstitutional laws, but so far, I haven't been able to come up a peaceful effective method the Neo-Marxist couldn't use against us.

Next, I'd order the resignation of RBG, and let Donald Trump appoint a true Constitutionalist to her replacement. This is just a convenient mechanism for the purposes of this exercise, but you get the real point, return the Supreme Court to a sound Constitutionally based footing.

And finally, I'd change the burden of proof regarding the Constitutionality of all laws affecting negative rights (i.e. the right to be left alone). All such laws would be presumed unconstitutional until the state could prove they were not, and that said laws provided more benefits than costs to society.

I think all three of the above would be help mitigate the effects of the Neo-Marxist among us. Make the Marxist prosecutors responsible to the common people, return SCOTUS to a Libertarian Constitutional footing, and raise the burden of proof for government at all levels making it harder for laws infringing our rights to stay on the books. Those are the kinds of places I'd start.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
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You’re King of the United States, you get three things to change...without challenge or revocation, ever. What would they be?.



Abolish the monarchy.


They seem to be doing that to themselves at the moment.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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1 All drugs would be legal. With a one and done policy. Commit a crime and test positive? Dead. Get caught driving under the influence? Dead. So much as steal a pack of gum.. test positive for drugs? Dead!

2. Change the "three strikes" laws to the death penalty. No three strikes you're out, three strikes you're dead! No appeals, express lane, no waiting!

3. Public executions at huge football stadiums! And anyone who shows up to watch gets exicuted too... because we don't need sickos like that around.

I'd make Pol Pot look like Mary Poppins! laugh

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#1 Abolish position of King.
#2 See #1
#3 See #2


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If I had a 4th, I'd require everyone is going to speak so much as a single word in a court room to take an oath to tell the truth and be subject to the same penalty as the person on trial for perjury.


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1 All “African amerikans” back to Africa, no if’s, ands or buts.
2 illegal immigrants rapidly rounded up and put to labor building a tall, strong wall , north and south, and would entertain walling off California as well. Then show them the other side of it.
3. A relentless purge of liberals, progressives, socialists, and the LGBTQ movements, in their entirety. By whatever means necessary...

That’s a start...

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Congress meets once per year for 30 days, and any laws they pass must apply to themselves exactly as they apply to everyone else, each state represented equally, and all congressmen are limited to one term of one meeting for life.

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Congress meets for 60 days, balanced budget amendment, and term limits - 2 for the senate and 4 for the House.


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
All illegals sent back

All Muslims expelled from the USA

All DemoRats expelled from the USA


This is the FIRST time I've seen this thread AND

You Beat Me To It !

I'd probably substitute '" Socialist " and that'd take care of the DemoRats.

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Originally Posted by jwall
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All illegals sent back

All Muslims expelled from the USA

All DemoRats expelled from the USA


This is the FIRST time I've seen this thread AND

You Beat Me To It !

I'd probably substitute '" Socialist " and that'd take care of the DemoRats.


Yep. Same thing.


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!. Poll tax of some description

I'll think about two others. For example appropriate immigration policy is under consideration, which would include assimilation with a core of traditional American values.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
...without challenge or revocation, ever. What would they be?

I would change illegal immigration/sanctuary cities/14th Amendment. If you’re not here legally, GTFO. No benefits, education, nothing. If you’re born here and your parents are citizens, you are too. If not, you’re not either. ICE works closely with other forms of LE. Commit a crime here, we’ll incarcerate you and bill your country of origin. Come back again, longer sentence. Big robust wall.

Welfare. Hand up, not a hand out. Job training but no work, no eat. Pee in a cup for benefits, I’m not subsidizing your dope. Can’t feed them, don’t breed them. Benefits taper after time, then disappear. Lifetime cap. When you’re out you’re out. Spend the savings on education and training. Create humans who can/will take care of themselves. End economic slavery. Give people back their pride.

The first two were easy, I got stuck on #3. I’m going for term limits on elected officials. Two terms Senate, 4 terms House, but no more than 16 years combined, and that includes state congresses. Revamping the prison system was another idea but term limits had more impact.

What would you choose?



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I like the first two alot. My #3 would concern elected official on the public dole......Salary would be the average mean salary in the USA, and adjusted every year accordingly. There would be no lifetime pension no matter how many years you serve, and you would be subject to the same benefit structure/health insurance/retirement, etc the avg American citizen gets. If the budget isn't balanced, or running a surplus, your salary would be reduced accordingly. I would dream up some sort of annual job performance evaluation and accountability procedure. Everything would be made public for all to see including expense accounts, etc.


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First, I would change the apportionment of congressional districts. No more gerrymandering. With 435 congressional districts there is about one congressman for every 550,000 people of voting age. Layout a population based grid and about every 550,000 people gets one representative. This way our elected representatives have to move to the middle to accommodate as broad a cross-section of society as necessary to get elected, instead of just appealing to that one group that lives in the gerrymandered district a quarter mile wide and 20 miles long. Hopefully, this would stop the move to the extreme left and the extreme right that we have been seeing for the last 15 years, thus allowing something like progress to be made.

Second, I would divide the press in the two classes: protected and unprotected. The protected press would enjoy all l the first amendment protections the press enjoys now, but would have to be non-profit and would be required to present facts to the best of their ability to discern them. Editorializing by the protected press would be severely limited, and broadcasting knowingly false information, or false information that was not properly vetted, would carry severe criminal penalties. The unprotected press would have free reign to editorialize, and to make a profit, but would also be subject to severe penalties for violating defamation laws.

Finally, I would establish more positive control over the immigration process. The goal of this new process would be to bring people into the country who are then going to be assimilated and become American citizens. The idea being to promote shared ideals, shared experiences, and shared goals. I would not tie immigration to certain skill sets, because we need a broad range of working classes in this country, Including basic laborers.

And if I could be allowed one more, I would establish English as the national language. Again, the idea is to foster a shared identity and not have language be a point of division. Bosnians all speak the same language, but write it in different alphabets. That and some religious differences were enough to justify one of the nastier civil wars of the 20th century.

Fundamental changes should be focused on bringing us together as a people rather than dividing us. Just my two cents worth.

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