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One reason President Trump won the election is because he fought back and had a back bone.
Damb Republicans role over and pee all over them selves during election show no back bone and all most give the elections to the Dumbocrats
Poleoozy runs unchallenged most of the time. Short of Dyeing she will never leave office just like Ginsburg

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Nothing will change in those cesspools until there is some major catastrophe/event and those cities are on there own for food and survival. They will realize the government isn't really protecting them and their well being is their own personal responsibility. The ones who survive likely won't forget it.


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There is the welfare factor, both black and white.

There is the race factor, the Dems have captured the civil rights flag, and wave it wildly.
We need to work hard at getting the truth out on that one.

Then there is the tough on.
Turner's Thesis, Rugged Individualism.


City people are different. Period. (And off topic, but they spread like the clap)
We drill a well and maintain it.
Install a septic and maintain it.
Plant a garden, preserve the bounty.
Butcher, and preserve our food.
Most can build a structure. (Maybe not pretty, but solid)
Weld two pieces of metal, run a torch.
Fix a car, at least, rotate tires and change oil.

Including our women and kids.

City people, even the blue collar or engineers,
depend on government for all services and maintenance of same.
Depend on stores for food.
A hammer, screwdriver and pliers are a good city tool kit.

I resent that which I don't know, or can't do. City folk, even working ones,
are dependant, and know it. And...embrace it.

Bottom line,
Dependants vs self sufficient.


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Lots of wisdom speaking here.
It’s like rap music. They start plugging in rap music in children shows. As children grow up rap is constantly plugged in everywhere and everything. After several years rap becomes a everyday part of life. Im using rap as an example.
Republicans first need to grow a set of balls and quit being cowards. Second they need to go into the big cities as OP has mentioned and implement a republican grass roots program. Show people there is a better life out here.
My college roommate was a Illinois prison guard and is now retired. He spent a lot of his career at Pontiac and Joliet prisons. Basically Chicago area.
He told me of numerous occasions that they were busing prisoners out of Chicago down to Pontiac. Prisoners were shocked as to what they seen as they left the city and suburbs. They were seeing cows ,farms and other oddities that most of us give zero notice to. Pontiac is out in farming country. He said they were like little kids going to a zoo for the first time.
Instead of showing up in these cities a week before the election let’s dive in with a long term plan to turn these places around.

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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
There is the welfare factor, both black and white.

There is the race factor, the Dems have captured the civil rights flag, and wave it wildly.
We need to work hard at getting the truth out on that one.

Then there is the tough on.
Turner's Thesis, Rugged Individualism.


City people are different. Period. (And off topic, but they spread like the clap)
We drill a well and maintain it.
Install a septic and maintain it.
Plant a garden, preserve the bounty.
Butcher, and preserve our food.
Most can build a structure. (Maybe not pretty, but solid)
Weld two pieces of metal, run a torch.
Fix a car, at least, rotate tires and change oil.

Including our women and kids.

City people, even the blue collar or engineers,
depend on government for all services and maintenance of same.
Depend on stores for food.
A hammer, screwdriver and pliers are a good city tool kit.

I resent that which I don't know, or can't do. City folk, even working ones,
are dependant, and know it. And...embrace it.

Bottom line,
Dependants vs self sufficient.




Dillon,

The reality's somewhat more complicated.

The most common tool kit in the city actually consists of a AAA card and a cell phone. It seems strange to country folk, but in the city, it makes sense.

The efficiency of cities is based upon an economic concept call "specialization and the division of labor". Most of us know this from Henry Ford and the assembly line, but it also applies when you have larger and larger collections of people each able to divide their efforts into more specialized areas and this increasing there relative productivity. This is also why, on average, the typical professional in cities makes more then a comparable professional in rural areas. There general rule is that for every order of magnitude for a metro area, productivity goes up 10%, and this compounds. So, the group of 1,000 is 33% more productive than the individual, and the city of 10,000,000 is twice as productive on a per person basis.

Take a look at your examples above. The person who can do all the things you mention is typically what we could call a "jack of all trades", but "a master of none". Additionally mastering all there requires a significant capital investment in tools and time to learn all there skills. It's amazing how much I spend on tools when taking on a new project. Additionally, there's the time involved. Now providing the person has the opportunity, often you are better off working an amount of overtime equal to how long it would take you to complete the project yourself, and just pay someone else to do the work for you.

Additionally, none of you country folks are near as independent as you think you are.

Your fuel, spare parts, tools, welders, welding rods, tires, steel, and gun powder, where's all that stuff made???

True, cities can't eat without farms, but without the cities, every farming operation in this country would quickly come to a halt as well.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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The little blonde girl is being beaten by the big black boys.

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The mentality in cities is totally different. Most are renters. When something goes wrong with the apartment, they call the landlord to fix it. If the landlord fails, they move. Very little "skin in the game".


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
The mentality in cities is totally different. Most are renters. When something goes wrong with the apartment, they call the landlord to fix it. If the landlord fails, they move. Very little "skin in the game".


Those who own live in the suburbs. It's a much better value.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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You are right about it being complicated.
And even the efficiency.
And absolutely right on no one being self sufficient. Totally.
And I don't want to be.


I think you may have missed my point due to my not making it even
more simple though. And, this is generalized, people are individuals.

City people as a group, are used to government taking care of them.
Every thing outside their door if apartment dwellers, including their
mechanics in their home is taken care of automatically or with a call.
Single home dwellers mow a lawn, maybe rake leaves, or shovel snow.

Condo management/HOA regulates most aspects of their ourside lives.
It's life, it's normal.

Not condemning it, it's required for a compact society.

The more one depends on government, or something similar,
the less offensive a big government Uncle becomes.
Eventually, it becomes daddy.

Like, it's the Government's money, I'm not hurting
anyone getting...


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Because your ideas fail to persuade. This is why the RNC tries to suppress voter turnout.

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Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Let groids vote republican and we get the cities back. Then we can clean them up.

Who's stopping them?

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Originally Posted by gregintenn
Who's stopping them?


(((Who))) indeed.

Deny the franchise to ethnic Jews and the black vote would be back with the Republican Party in 30 years.

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