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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14327722 12/01/19
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I would pick the .338 because in practical terms .300 magnum offers nothing over .30-06. Extra recoil and blast are not practical.


Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14327756 12/01/19
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I have a MCM stocked, 20” 338 Win Mag in SS M70 I need to put into service. Seems like 185 Barnes TTSX would make it a great close quarters rut rifle.


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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: T_Inman] #14327784 12/01/19
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I’ve been browsing the net looking for a Ruger all weather Skeketon stock in .300 Win Mag for Elk and possibly Moose. Haven’t seen one in .300 Win Mag but there are a few .338 Win Mag for sale. This has me thinking......

How do you compare these two? Would you choose one over the other? Ammo availability / price? Recoil comparison?’any and all info is we scones. I have no experience with either caliber. Thanks!


I bought a zytel stocked Ruger 77 in .338 Win Mag when I was 18....absolutely had to have it. Killed a smallish bear with it, then sold it.

With factory loads (Winchester failsafes, I believe) that rifle kicked harder than any other rifle I have fired before or since. It's a good round no doubt, but not in that rifle.


Ya ted, absolutely shiit stock design, they distribute felt recoil in 1 spot!! 🤣🤣


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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: Calvin] #14327791 12/01/19
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Originally Posted by Calvin
I have a MCM stocked, 20” 338 Win Mag in SS M70 I need to put into service. Seems like 185 Barnes TTSX would make it a great close quarters rut rifle.


I bought mine off bugger on here, came magna ported, thinking about having it chopped which would put it about 22”


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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14327853 12/01/19
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Mine originally was the BOSS model I had chopped. Haven’t shot it in 15 years. Be nice to do a season with it.


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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14327884 12/01/19
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Mine are Sako’s, they seem to have less recoil than other rifles.

Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14327934 12/01/19
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Recoil will be the biggest difference - the .338 would make you flinch. The .338 has a good bit more energy than the .300 win mag. But, unless you are hunting bear, the .338 really won't give you much of an advantage. The .300 win mag will take anything in North America with no problem.

Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14327941 12/01/19
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I hunted mostly with a .300 for about 10 years, then after a couple close quarter bear encounters went to a .338 for the last 15 or so. Both Rugers. I liked the slight increase in diameter, recoil has not been an issue so far. I don't have long sessions with the rifle, as poa stays the same with the crappy Leupold on it. Longest shot was a moose at 435 yds.

Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14328071 12/01/19
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I have rifles in both cartridges. My .300 WM is a Rem 700 SPS, and my .338 WM is a Ruger Hawkeye SS. I'll be honest with you, I like the .338 WM over the .300 WM, as it to me the rifle does not kick as hard as the .300 WM. Of course the Ruger is a little heaver and that helps tame the recoil as well. I'm also impressed with how well the .338 WM shoots. My son that just came home from Army AIT last week for the AK Army Guard has decided he wants a .300 WM. I told him to save his money, and he can have mine. I've shot caribou with it and have bear hunted with it the past three springs I hunted bear (2014, 2016, and 2017). I honestly don't see it going in the woods with me much anymore as the .338 and my .300 WSM I prefer over the .300 WM.

Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: Slavek] #14328171 12/01/19
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Originally Posted by Slavek
I would pick the .338 because in practical terms .300 magnum offers nothing over .30-06. Extra recoil and blast are not practical.


Have you loaded for both ?

300 FPS and flatter trajectory are BOTH advantages of the 300 WM.

I Load for both and have a chronograph. Experience.


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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: jwall] #14328269 12/01/19
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Originally Posted by jwall
I Load for both and have a chronograph. Experience.

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What’s your experience with them on elk and moose?


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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14328304 12/01/19
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I have lots of experience with the .300 and quite a bit with the .338 & more with the .340... All three are great rounds, but the .300 gets my vote hands down.. If I need to go bigger then I step up to a .375... I would like to know how much experience guys who say there is no diff. between the o6 and the .300 have with both rounds.. An 06 is a great round, but the .300 is a big step up in, speed , flat traj.. and of course recoil... If you can't handle the recoil then you are better off with the 06 and if that is too much the .308...


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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: jwall] #14328559 12/01/19
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Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by Slavek
I would pick the .338 because in practical terms .300 magnum offers nothing over .30-06. Extra recoil and blast are not practical.


Have you loaded for both ?

300 FPS and flatter trajectory are BOTH advantages of the 300 WM.

I Load for both and have a chronograph. Experience.


Jerry



With all due respect where you getting a separation of 300 fps? A 180 gr .30 in 300 WM will carry about 3050 fps at the muzzle. A 200 gr .33 is carrying about 3020 fps at the muzzle. No way a 300 WM has 300 fps on a 338 WM. Even with 150s in a .30 vs a 165s in a .33. Long and short of it at a distance of 400 yards the 300 WM shoots less than 2 inches flatter and when it comes to high BC heavy projectiles the .30 can’t keep up with a .33 in drift or sheer penetration on heavy game.

Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14328576 12/01/19
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I think Jerry is comparing the 300 win to 30\06 analogy..... Just my guess though


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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14328591 12/01/19
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Well that makes perfect sense. My bad.

Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14328685 12/01/19
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I have both the 300 and 338 win mags. I set the 300 up for long range and the 338 for 400 and closer hunting. Both are great shooters. The 300 sits in the safe, the 338 goes to the mountain every time.

Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14328828 12/01/19
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I’ve had a few of the .30 - .338 magnums. 340 Weatherby, 338 Win Mag, 300 Weatherby and the 300 Win Mag. Still have the 338 Win Mag. That gun with 210 Noslers just works. That bullet has taken 2 Grizzlies for me. No complaints. Also Elk and Deer. While certainly magnum recoil, I’d rather shoot it than the other 3. Jump up to 250’s and that changes. The Weatherby’s are brutal. I didn’t see a lot of difference between the 338 and the 300 Win Mag. All 4 are more than enough for all of America’s Big Game. I’ve never hunted Brown Bear but with the right bullets and proper shot placement, all would be well. My biggest Grizzly was a B&C Bear that squared out at 8’ 1”. One shot was all that was required.

Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: Slavek] #14328967 12/01/19
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Originally Posted by Slavek
I would pick the .338 because in practical terms .300 magnum offers nothing over .30-06. Extra recoil and blast are not practical.

You sir, are delusional. Offers nothing ? Just in Hornady American Whitetail 180gr, the 300 is nearly 300 fps flatter and almost 2 inches flatter at 300 yards. You should get out and actually EXPERIENCE some things, as the other guy said. An animal wont know the difference until you get over 800 yards, but the ease of less holdover is what the 300 Win Mag was intended for. Besides, the 30-06 needs to be retired, I'd take a .308 or .30 TC over the Ot Sux any day.

Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: JBabcock] #14329006 12/01/19
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Originally Posted by JBabcock
I’ve had a few of the .30 - .338 magnums. 340 Weatherby, 338 Win Mag, 300 Weatherby and the 300 Win Mag. Still have the 338 Win Mag. That gun with 210 Noslers just works. That bullet has taken 2 Grizzlies for me. No complaints. Also Elk and Deer. While certainly magnum recoil, I’d rather shoot it than the other 3. Jump up to 250’s and that changes. The Weatherby’s are brutal. I didn’t see a lot of difference between the 338 and the 300 Win Mag. All 4 are more than enough for all of America’s Big Game. I’ve never hunted Brown Bear but with the right bullets and proper shot placement, all would be well. My biggest Grizzly was a B&C Bear that squared out at 8’ 1”. One shot was all that was required.

My .338 Win Mag pet load was 225 Accubonds moving easily at 2700 fps. It was an off switch for deer, they dropped in their tracks, every time. It also shot under 1 inch at 100 yards every time.

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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .338 Win Mag [Re: pharmvet] #14329425 12/01/19
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Ah, I personally think the 30-06 might be the greatest cartridge ever designed. With today’s bullets, I’d hunt the world with it. I’ve put away my magnums, and I typically grab a 30-06. Retired? I don’t think so. Think 350 Chevy small-block, and there’s the 30-06 right next to it.

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