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Oh, I thought you said I needed a rifle (I) didn't shoot, so to me, that would mean I don't shoot.... Very sorry if that's my interpretation....
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Why, do I need to shoot “more”???.... haha No one said anything about you shooting more. And a 24” prc is just a tiny little itsy bit better than a 30 nosler or 300 ratherby. Just a new mousetrap I’d 300 rum first given .308 as the only option but they will never replace 300 grains of .338. Oh, ok!!! Thanks!!!
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I got one of the CA Ridgelines in 300 RUM. I probably fall in closer to you, I don’t ever expect to take a shot over 600 yards but love to shoot as far as I can. The 300 RUM is a monster but way more capability that I’ll ever need. Didn’t matter, I wanted it so I got it.
The PRC is another good 30 though, grab one or piece one together and have a blast. I have a 70 Classic and an 8 twist Krieger in my basement I’ve been thinking about building myself but with the 300 RUM and 220 Scenar combo nothing I’ll build will whoop it, for my uses which is mainly elk and some deer.
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The main advantage of the 300 PRC is not the cartridge but the chamber. Less slop means better accuracy. If any 30 caliber magnum was cut to the same specs and twist and put in a magnum action using the same bullets it would do as well.
But if starting from scratch, the PRC would be a fine choice.
No, the edge is not obsolete as you cannot shoot a 300 gr bullet from a PRC.
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One thing the PRC has going for it is the case length allows bigger bullets to be seated out, and still fit in a standard 3.700" mag box.
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I’ll start by, factory ammo, and fitting nicely in any LA.... Wont fit in a Ruger, tikka ect gotta have a 3.7 mag box Oh, didn't know folks did customs on such... Factory fodder is almost 3.7
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Someone should see if they can neck a 50BMG down to .338
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Someone should see if they can neck a 50BMG down to .338 Been attempted, never very successfully as far as I know. There are a couple of successful .338’s based on the .408 Cheytac. See the .338 Snipetac as an example. It pushed a 265 grain bullet over 3,400 fps.
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Didn’t think there was that much difference between a .814 and a .777 to warrant longer barrels, heavier rifles, loudners, no factory ammo, no extended mag box, “on a 700”, more powder, noise and recoil, especially at 1000 yards!!! Wow
Thanks for the info!!
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Or a .823 @ 2800. Or a .878 @ 2700... sorry I'm very confused... carry on!!
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Not a bad read. Something I noticed right away was the barrels all have different twist. Is that a big deal? Probably Not! But I am going to be knit picky here. If you are going to set strict standards for Bullet, Powder, and Barrel Length, Then why now twist as well? Keep it all same same. I am not saying the outcome of his findings would be different. Also I don't personally build a rifle around a specific powder. I find the powder and charge that best fits the bullet and rifle. I have shot two of the three looked at in the article. I killed a nice Spring Montana Black Bear with the .30 Nosler this year. I have shot the .300 WM a bunch but never warmed up to it. The .300 PRC interest me a bunch. So maybe I want to find the good in the PRC? The .30 Nosler is ok but I don't want to be limited to Nosler brass. In the end my take on the article is that I am not sure on two things. Was the chambers cut to the best dimensions? Does the twist difference matter? Also I don't want a 26" barrel 22" to 23" would be my preference and threaded for a can. I think in the end all three are so close it's really a matter of personal preference on which one to choose.
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The 30-28 Nosler will have a better brass selection.
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Not that the edge was any better than the nilla 338 rum anyway, but, for me,prc by far an away .makes the most sense, especially if folks trust scopes like they think they do..... Just don't put a Leupold on there, you cain't trust 'em.
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[/quote]
ADG Nosler brass in my opinion is a game changer for the 30 Nosler.
My 30-28 easily runs a 215 Berger at 3100 FPS
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ADG Nosler brass in my opinion is a game changer for the 30 Nosler.
My 30-28 easily runs a 215 Berger at 3100 FPS Agree
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Peterson has 28N brass on the way. I received pre-production samples, but beyond a cursory physical inspection, including weighing and measuring, I’ve not had an opportunity to fully evaluate.
Nosler’s September 2018 run of 28N brass has been quite good.
ADG is producing great brass. While I haven’t used their 28N brass I’ve used their 6.5 PRC brass and just today 250 pieces of 6.5 SAUM brass were delivered.
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Well fook. I might as well sell my 6.5 manbunn 300 Weatherby as unfired. Im totally undergunned.
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I thought we could argue about stunt shooting for a while Jud. No way brother man, I do what I do.... Just pondering a 1000 yard and under elk/coues rifle... think I’ll be happy... Jud, Here you go...Get your 1000 yard Coues rig here. 😎 https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/seekins-ph2-in-300prc-with-picture.231649/
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Just ordered a 9” hawk hill, not a bad deal there
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