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I guess the question is what short actions does the 6.5 prc fit? my Savages have a 3' mag box but I cannot get a magnum bolt head for the short action.
Montana Rifle co. has a 3"+ mag box. Not sure on the Ruger? I believe Winchester SA has a 3" magbox
I am not familiar with the AI magbox, is that factory? does it fit a Rem SA if so do you have to machine the action?
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Savage does make rifles in the PRC.......
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Did a little research and it looks like Bergara, Seekins, Browning, Ruger, Christensen, GA, Fierce and Proof chamber for the 6.5 PRS, non seem to be hunting rifles, all appear to be tactical rifles. And most seem to be semi-custom boutique rifles.
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I guess the question is what short actions does the 6.5 prc fit? my Savages have a 3' mag box but I cannot get a magnum bolt head for the short action.
Montana Rifle co. has a 3"+ mag box. Not sure on the Ruger? I believe Winchester SA has a 3" magbox
I am not familiar with the AI magbox, is that factory? does it fit a Rem SA if so do you have to machine the action? It does fit R700 SA's with the proper DBM, and there is no altering of the action itself. For those that don't like a mag that goes down to the level of the trigger guard, Curtis Customs manufactures a high quality detachable mag that is flush with the stock. Only my opinion, but I won't hunt with a rifle without a DBM system. They have been 100% reliable for cycling. Never had a snafu with them....and never had one fall out. Just talked to George Gardner(who helped with the development of the PRC), he said at this time the 6.5 PRC is # 4 in factory ammo leaving the plant, #1 is the 6.5 Creedmoor, then the 6MM Creedmoor, then .308, with the 6.5 PRC at #4.
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Savage does make rifles in the PRC....... My Savages are the M10 center feed and magnum bolt heads are not available. They make an oddball controlled round feed for the WSM rounds but that bolt head will not fit the standard Savage 10
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Did a little research and it looks like Bergara, Seekins, Browning, Ruger, Christensen, GA, Fierce and Proof chamber for the 6.5 PRS, non seem to be hunting rifles, all appear to be tactical rifles. And most seem to be semi-custom boutique rifles. Howa , Savage , Ruger , Sauer , Bergera , and others all making hunting weight rifles
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Savage does make rifles in the PRC....... My Savages are the M10 center feed and magnum bolt heads are not available. They make an oddball controlled round feed for the WSM rounds but that bolt head will not fit the standard Savage 10 well , I guess you will just have to buy a brand new Savage , if thats what you want in PRC https://www.internationalsportsman.com/savage-arms-6-5-prc-rifles/
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Thanks for the info Pat.
Seems like a lot of hoops to jump through just to have a short action.
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Savage does make rifles in the PRC....... My Savages are the M10 center feed and magnum bolt heads are not available. They make an oddball controlled round feed for the WSM rounds but that bolt head will not fit the standard Savage 10 well , I guess you will just have to buy a brand new Savage , if thats what you want in PRC I refuse to buy a new Savage, overpriced and butt ugly, no thanks the old ones are ugly enough...
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Wonder why Remington hasn't jumped on the prc train?
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Wonder why Remington hasn't jumped on the prc train? Hell Jud , look how long it took them to jump on the 6.5 Creedmoor, them boys ain't to bright
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Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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irfubar, thanks for posting the additional info and pics! Helps me in my gathering info for my next build.
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irfubar, thanks for posting the additional info and pics! Helps me in my gathering info for my next build.
You're welcome, I just noticed I made a typo, the loaded round is 3.395" oal
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FWIW, I'm driving 139 scenars at 3080fps without pushing pressure. Some of my cases have 10 firings on them.
This is what has me scratching my head about case life with my 6.5-06 AI. If I load 140 Bergers at 3050, after three firings the primer pockets are getting loose. And that's with H-1000, two different kinds of brass. Yet the 6.5 SAUM and PRC don't seem to have that problem. Stouter case heads on those two perhaps??
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Probably.
Will note that I "built" my rifle on a 700 short-magnum rifle, already barreled with a #4 Lilja in 9.3 Barsness-Sisk, the one and only wildcat I will ever "develop." It has a Bansner High-Tech stock, and always shot very well.
This was for a short-deadline article on handloading the 6.5 PRC for the Hodgdon Annual Manual, and while a 6.5 PRC was definitely in my plans, I needed one for the deadline. Luckily, Lilja had one #4 contour 6.5 1-8 barrel in stock, so I bought it, and a Pacific Tool & Gauge reamer for Charlie.
I considered installing a Wyatt's box, but time was short so decided to see what might work in the "short" Remington magazine. Plus, I could test all the loads by single-loading anyway. Turned out the rifle shot most accurately with loads with a COAL length that fit in the standard Remington magazine, around 2.85". That may change with more shooting and "chasing" the lands, but so far it keeps shooting little-bitty groups with several bullets seated to 2.85". It's probably my latest favorite "modern" big game rifle, but then I'm one of those notoriously fickle rifle loonies.
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FWIW, I'm driving 139 scenars at 3080fps without pushing pressure. Some of my cases have 10 firings on them.
This is what has me scratching my head about case life with my 6.5-06 AI. If I load 140 Bergers at 3050, after three firings the primer pockets are getting loose. And that's with H-1000, two different kinds of brass. Yet the 6.5 SAUM and PRC don't seem to have that problem. Stouter case heads on those two perhaps?? My 6.5-284 with 26” Krieger (ballistic twin to the 6.5-06) pushes 140 VLD’s at 3K with 48.8 gr RL-17. No signs of pressure. Lapua brass with tight primer pockets. Easy extraction of fired cases. Nice shooting round. DF
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Whoever is saying the case capacity is like the .264 is mistaken. It's just about exactly the same as the 6.5-06. I know due to having a 6.5 PRC built last year, and comparing its water capacity with several other 6.5 cases. John, can you share who you used to build your 6.5 PRC (local or shipped out)? I am considering rebarreling a Kimber 325 WSM and am trying to decide who I should use. Thanks, Jerry
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Jerry, I used Charlie Sisk, who a few years ago moved from the Houston area back to his native Kentucky. Charlie built the original rifle as a 9.3 Barsness-Sisk back in 2005, using a #4 contour Lilja stainless barrel, so all he had to do for this project was fit another #4 Lilja 6.5 barrel. His website is off-line at the moment, apparently getting rebuilt, but he also has a Facebook page--and still visits the Campfire from time to time (he recently even posted on this forum). You can e-mail him at charlie siskguns.com.
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I am wondering how things are looking for it these days now that more time has passed since it’s introduction. Does it seem to be taking off, or is it still too soon to tell?. I think it's dead in the water..... I'm thinking like a Ford /Mercury comparison. The Mercury was a bit bigger and nicer, but not enough to matter. Now, they don't make Mercury anymore because they are dead in the water.
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