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Lightest .300 Win mag on a classic CRF action? #14331127 12/02/19
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Afternoon gents, I may be looking to build a LW .300 Win Mag, looking for real life weights on build.

Either a pre-64 or classic action, McMillan Edge, PT&G LW bottom metal, #2? Krieger or equivalent.

What have you built, what did it weigh?


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I’m going to see if I can find some of my notes. I had planned on a similar build a few years ago. I don’t remember the specific details of weight, but my plan was a featherweight contour tube, in a hunters edge.
Watching this thread for sure. smile

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1954 Pre 64 nickel plated action, 24” Shilen #2 SS match select barrel, control rings and bases, Leupold 2.5x8, Brown synthetic stock, 1” Decelerator. 8# 2oz.

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1954 H&H receiver 338wm, brown PoundR. 7 pounds bare rifle:

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The beauty in this build is the weight and 5 round capacity (4 in the box and 1 in the chamber). Little do most know, the H&H receivers are your huckleberry if you want to go light and better mag capacity. Win win... Just sayin...

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Its not only lightweight, but it shoots better than most as well:
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.

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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
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That’s a good point, I hadn’t considered. The h&h receiver. I suppose that may safe a couple/few ounces of trimmed material.

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BSA, perfect.

Sell it to me so I can rebarrel. grin


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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
BSA, perfect.

Sell it to me so I can rebarrel. grin

Screw that. That 338 is damn near perfection. Im also one that prefers it over the 300wm. I actually like all 300 magnums more than the short necked bastid.


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.

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do you have build specs on that rifle? Any chance you may have created a thread as you built her?

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my 300 H&H turned out about as light as I 'd want a 300mag. It's a pre 64 H&H action, factory BM, Echols Legend stock with edge fill, Lilja #2 @24" with a 3-10x42 swaro Z3 in talley LWTS' it's about 7 3/4 lbs.

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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Afternoon gents, I may be looking to build a LW .300 Win Mag, looking for real life weights on build.

Either a pre-64 or classic action, McMillan Edge, PT&G LW bottom metal, #2? Krieger or equivalent.

What have you built, what did it weigh?


I can tell you my Mashburn has a 25" #2 Bartlein (turned to match Kriegers 2) with an EDGE shelled Legend, P64 H&H action, Blackburn BM, Warne Mountain Tech 1" rings, Warne bases and a 6x36 Leupold and it goes 8 1/2 pounds with a couple of round in it and a Montana Sling. Hope that helps. I built that rifle off Bob's specs, and to be honest, when I rebarrel I may go a whisker lighter in contour, but as it is, it is a shooting SOB and carries real well for a fast 7. I'd build a 300 mag on the same blueprint.


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Thanks gent. Good info.


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your choice of a 300 Win . Mag. is a excellent choice,Winchester pre64 action is a great choice too, stock choice too, i myself have used alot of different barrels and to be honest Brux barrel maybe builds the better precision barrels now. i would also consider Greg Walstrom at Straight Line Machine a very fine machinist to put this rifle together for you. Greg builds alot of National Bench Rest rifles in 1000 yd,600 yd and more, he has had some rifles that have won the titles too. 320-272-4897 is Greg `s number.

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Thanks Pete.

I will most likely send the parts to Gene Simillion should I decide to proceed.


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If this is for that sheep hunt I use that 300 RUM you got.. my sheep hunt last year not once did I say man I wish my rifle was lighter. I was saying damn wish my old fat ass would of lost 25 more lbs..



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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
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Originally Posted by 79S
If this is for that sheep hunt I use that 300 RUM you got.. my sheep hunt last year not once did I say man I wish my rifle was lighter. I was saying damn wish my old fat ass would of lost 25 more lbs..


That it is.

Funny, I weighed the 300 RUM action last night with PT&G LW bottom metal, and Talley LW. Came in at about 5lbs 6oz

An edge (doable on the RUM?) would add about 1lb 10oz, so we are at 7lbs roughly.

Would scope with a Swarovski Z5 3.5-18x44, another 15 oz, so 8 lbs all up, assuming the edge would work.

A Brown poundr (again, doable?) would subtract about 8oz from the total.

I would tote 8lbs, but perhaps a Kimber Montana in .30-06 would be a better all around choice?


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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Originally Posted by 79S
If this is for that sheep hunt I use that 300 RUM you got.. my sheep hunt last year not once did I say man I wish my rifle was lighter. I was saying damn wish my old fat ass would of lost 25 more lbs..


That it is.

Funny, I weighed the 300 RUM action last night with PT&G LW bottom metal, and Talley LW. Came in at about 5lbs 6oz

An edge (doable on the RUM?) would add about 1lb 10oz, so we are at 7lbs roughly.

Would scope with a Swarovski Z5 3.5-18x44, another 15 oz, so 8 lbs all up, assuming the edge would work.

A Brown poundr (again, doable?) would subtract about 8oz from the total.

I would tote 8lbs, but perhaps a Kimber Montana in .30-06 would be a better all around choice?



I'd go with a little lighter barrel next time around on my 7. Did the 2 this time and something along the lines of a 1.5/1.75's sorta contour would shave just enough weight to get me closer to a flat 8.

I don't think I'd do an EDGE fill on a RUM. EDGE shell like the Legend with Standard fill would probably be safer and a more predictable stock. Don't know though, just going off what Darcy mentioned to me about the bigger jugged magnums.

Sounds like a slick build though, I'll be watching to see what you do and how it comes out. I think an 8lb flat, all up 300 magnum is a good rifle that'll serve most hunters real well.


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I have a sub 8lb .338 Win Mag that shoots the 225 TSX into tight groups at 2900 FPS

Built on a classic stainless, barrel bobbed to 24", sits in an Bridges Edge. I hunt it here in the Adirondacks every so often.

Envisioned it as my bear/moose rifle, as I never expected to be able to afford a sheep hunt. I realize it will do the job on sheep as well, but honestly, who needs a .338 for Dall?

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338 fits in anywhere a 30-06 does in my opinion.
My favorite caliber by far.

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30-06 will be a great choice for the sheep hunt. I packed a 270 winchester in a model 70 classic sporter bedded into all terrain stock last yr. but if you don't find a legal ram and find a brown bear you will probably want more than a 270. So that 338 would be perfect😁



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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
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Other options are a Montana in 280 Ackley, and a 7lb 14oz M-70 7mm Rem Mag, both shoot the 160 Accubond at around 3050 FPS.


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