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Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Trump just tweeted and reported on Fox....Paraphrasing ......"Go ahead"....."Impeach me in the house ASAP"......."Let's get this into the senate".....

I agree........The dems will self destruct if there is a trial in the senate...........Schiff and PIGlosi can longer control the narrative in the senate and the POTUS will be accorded FULL representation by counsel, accorded full cross examinations and full subpoena power........

Go ahead demCRAPS and Trump haters including you Paddler,,you idiot!!...........Let's get this into the senate......

I would hope, for maximum gain, that Trump and the GOP have crafted a strategy to weaponize the defense of an impeachment trial in the Senate, beat 'em with their own stick


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a couple of blacks with an AR cause them to pee their pants for a month. Just imagine what 50 guys with suppressed .22lr pistols could achieve in DC, picking off the staff of anti-gun politicians! Can't give everyone the 40 SS agents that would be required to prevent that, much less the 400 needed to stop a rilfeman.

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Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Trump just tweeted and reported on Fox....Paraphrasing ......"Go ahead"....."Impeach me in the house ASAP"......."Let's get this into the senate".....

I agree........The dems will self destruct if there is a trial in the senate...........Schiff and PIGlosi can longer control the narrative in the senate and the POTUS will be accorded FULL representation by counsel, accorded full cross examinations and full subpoena power........

Go ahead demCRAPS and Trump haters including you Paddler,,you idiot!!...........Let's get this into the senate......

We don't know what is going on in the Senate. McConnell is saying what he needs to say, but when the vote is held, I would not be surprised if you are surprised.

There most likely is billions of dollars available for guilty votes. The demoncraps cannot come this far and fail. Too many of them would at the least go to prison. And as many have said, it would destroy them. It would, and that's why it won't. Anybody believe they won't do whatever it takes to accomplish their goals of destroying America and seizing power and wealth for themselves? I don't.

I implored you chit for brains cowards to march on DC, showing them we would not accept their actions. Over and over again. Crickets.

You morons will get the government you deserve. I'll get eternity early.


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From a strictly political standpoint, it would successfully demonstrate that the Democrats will not obey the law and will never accept a conservative President. If nothing happened it would demonstrate that the Republic is over. Further it would demonstrate that the permanent government has already taken over. One party, no need for elections.
But they would be forgetting that little detail - mass civil unrest and the storming of the US gov't by fully armed and pissed-off citizens..

D.C. would turn red....


You don't really believe that? Because that will never happen! You aren't leaving your family, job, cush life to end up in jail or dead! So what makes you think any other guy is going to?

Hundreds of men have no family and dont gaf about anything. It wouldn't take a dozen, picking off the staff of anti-gun pols, to make the rest leave DC. wear a disguise, be aware of prints, DNA, cameras, and few would be caught. as long as they just came into DC now and then, hit a few and left again. vial stolen cars, bicycle, etc. No connection between them and anything else, other than hatred. Millions hate bureaucrats and anti-gunners. So what's to point the finger at any one, hmm?

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Originally Posted by satir
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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
From a strictly political standpoint, it would successfully demonstrate that the Democrats will not obey the law and will never accept a conservative President. If nothing happened it would demonstrate that the Republic is over. Further it would demonstrate that the permanent government has already taken over. One party, no need for elections.
But they would be forgetting that little detail - mass civil unrest and the storming of the US gov't by fully armed and pissed-off citizens..

D.C. would turn red....


You don't really believe that? Because that will never happen! You aren't leaving your family, job, cush life to end up in jail or dead! So what makes you think any other guy is going to?

Hundreds of men have no family and dont gaf about anything. It wouldn't take a dozen, picking off the staff of anti-gun pols, to make the rest leave DC. wear a disguise, be aware of prints, DNA, cameras, and few would be caught. as long as they just came into DC now and then, hit a few and left again. vial stolen cars, bicycle, etc. No connection between them and anything else, other than hatred. Millions hate bureaucrats and anti-gunners. So what's to point the finger at any one, hmm?



At this point, that is pure fantasy.


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If the senate convicts, which it won't, the bitching would increase 10 fold then slowly die out as the country moved forward. Wouldn't take long until it was back to the usual partisan bullschit.


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Originally Posted by MadMooner
If the senate convicts, which it won't, the bitching would increase 10 fold then slowly die out as the country moved forward. Wouldn't take long until it was back to the usual partisan bullschit.

If the senate convicts everything will change. Pence will be impeached, Pelosi will be POTUS, Constitution shredded, and behold a Brave New World.


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I don’t think it will come to armed rebellions, Americans are too fat and happy for that. I do think it’ll essentially be the end of the republic because if the duly elected president can be removed by political opponents using the flimsiest of justifications we’ll have shown that elections don’t matter and the constitution is worthless. It will have been a bloodless coup and many states will have to start thinking about whether or not they’re going to stay a part of something like that.

It’ll be similar to when a communist government comes in and starts renouncing private property rights. People might not rebel but they see the writing on the wall and start positioning themselves so they can protect what they have, think Venezuela when Chavez took over, people with money were fleeing like rats. If the democrats can arbitrarily remove a president just because he beat their chosen candidate then what else will they do?

In other words it’ll be all downhill for the U.S. if they succeed. People are smart enough to recognize a tyrannical takeover and they’ll position themselves accordingly to safeguard their property and families.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
First,.virtually half the people in the country would start to consider the federal government invalid. From that point it would probably lead to some nasty actions on down the road which would eventually culminate in war and the balkaization of the U.S.A.

It depends who the military will support. I'm sure Obama has enough plants in the higher ranks, to pull it off. Even if people tried anything after that, it would just be mass suicide.

If anything is going to happen it needs to start NOW! Later will most certainly be too late.


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"It’ll be similar to when a communist government comes in and starts renouncing private property rights. People might not rebel but they see the writing on the wall and start positioning themselves so they can protect what they have, think Venezuela when Chavez took over, people with money were fleeing like rats. If the democrats can arbitrarily remove a president just because he beat their chosen candidate then what else will they do?"

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Originally Posted by satir
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
From a strictly political standpoint, it would successfully demonstrate that the Democrats will not obey the law and will never accept a conservative President. If nothing happened it would demonstrate that the Republic is over. Further it would demonstrate that the permanent government has already taken over. One party, no need for elections.
But they would be forgetting that little detail - mass civil unrest and the storming of the US gov't by fully armed and pissed-off citizens..

D.C. would turn red....


You don't really believe that? Because that will never happen! You aren't leaving your family, job, cush life to end up in jail or dead! So what makes you think any other guy is going to?

Hundreds of men have no family and dont gaf about anything. It wouldn't take a dozen, picking off the staff of anti-gun pols, to make the rest leave DC. wear a disguise, be aware of prints, DNA, cameras, and few would be caught. as long as they just came into DC now and then, hit a few and left again. vial stolen cars, bicycle, etc. No connection between them and anything else, other than hatred. Millions hate bureaucrats and anti-gunners. So what's to point the finger at any one, hmm?



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A white guy named DJ Swagger robbed over 40 banks in Tx over a 10 year period, by wearing black makeup. He said that once he shed the ZZ top beard and makeup, it was like he was invisible! :-) Cops looked right past him and kept going. Just imagine a small man dressed as a woman. or a woman dressed as a man, beard ,wig, etc.when she has a butch cut in real life. French and Russian women killed lots of men in WW2. A few Vietamese women did so, to, in the 70's.

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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
I don’t think it will come to armed rebellions, Americans are too fat and happy for that. I do think it’ll essentially be the end of the republic because if the duly elected president can be removed by political opponents using the flimsiest of justifications we’ll have shown that elections don’t matter and the constitution is worthless. It will have been a bloodless coup and many states will have to start thinking about whether or not they’re going to stay a part of something like that.

It’ll be similar to when a communist government comes in and starts renouncing private property rights. People might not rebel but they see the writing on the wall and start positioning themselves so they can protect what they have, think Venezuela when Chavez took over, people with money were fleeing like rats. If the democrats can arbitrarily remove a president just because he beat their chosen candidate then what else will they do?

In other words it’ll be all downhill for the U.S. if they succeed. People are smart enough to recognize a tyrannical takeover and they’ll position themselves accordingly to safeguard their property and families.

How? How will they safeguard anything? Those days will pretty much be over in a few weeks or months. The demoncraps will reach out to all the states to seize guns and disappear anyone the least bit contentious. Those states who won't comply will be made to with extreme prejudice. Destroy the capital of the first and the rest will fall in line quickly.

This is how socialism works.


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I don't think there is anything to compel the Senate to hold a hearing if articles are passed by the House. They could simply ignore it and refuse to conduct a trial.

The founding fathers acknowledged that impeachment was a political tool that would reflect the status/strength of the parties, not necessarily the guilt or innocence of the President.

Hamilton:

"Their prosecution will seldom fail to agitate the passions of the whole community, and to divide it into parties more or less friendly or inimical to the accused. In many cases it will connect itself with the pre-existing factions, and will enlist all their animosities, partialities, influence and interest on one side or on the other; and in such cases there will always be the greatest danger that the decision will be regulated more by the comparative strength of parties, than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.”


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One thing about, this goat rope is keeping congress from causing trouble elsewhere.



Good point. The Demokraps are so obsessed with hating the guy who upset the apple cart that they aren't causing much damage elsewhere.


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Just because you're inept and cowardly doesn't mean everyone is. When they have to impose martial law, foreign investors will no longer buy our bonds. That will collapse the dollar. One man can burn CA off of the map in one night, during dry season. One man can make RR shipping so dangerous and expensive that nobody will use it, too. The Boston Tea party guys were "just vandals" and the Founding Fathers were called "traitors', too.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
From a strictly political standpoint, it would successfully demonstrate that the Democrats will not obey the law and will never accept a conservative President. If nothing happened it would demonstrate that the Republic is over. Further it would demonstrate that the permanent government has already taken over. One party, no need for elections.


Good summary. Short and to the point. Personally, I think we're just about there already.

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Originally Posted by satir
Just because you're inept and cowardly doesn't mean everyone is. When they have to impose martial law, foreign investors will no longer buy our bonds. That will collapse the dollar. One man can burn CA off of the map in one night, during dry season. One man can make RR shipping so dangerous and expensive that nobody will use it, too. The Boston Tea party guys were "just vandals" and the Founding Fathers were called "traitors', too.


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